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So how tough is IWD Mod 3 with fresh 60 GWF

cayappcayapp Member Posts: 826 Arc User
edited May 2014 in The Militia Barracks
Okay gonna test out just how really difficult IWD is on my brand new GWF.

No epic set gear.
Lesser Vorpal.
No Soul Forged.
3 Dread ring boons only.
Using 50% speed mount.
I do have a lvl 20 Stone Companion.

Current GS is 10.8K

I do have have 4 artifacts, none are past lvl 29 right now, I resisted the urge to level them up from my other toons.
Only gear have bought is a non epic sword and the shards to make the lesser vorpal.

Class ones CW, HR, and GWF
and Waters.

I did not use any class guide to selecting my powers and feats, I choose whatever I thought would be helpful or useful for how I play.

I tried to keep the alt pretty close to normal. As well as close to the bare entry requirements.

I am gonna be entering IWP in a couple of minutes for the first time on this alt, and will let anyone interesting know how it goes.
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  • midnightfang93midnightfang93 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    cayapp wrote: »
    Okay gonna test out just how really difficult IWD is on my brand new GWF.

    No epic set gear.
    Lesser Vorpal.
    No Soul Forged.
    3 Dread ring boons only.
    Using 50% speed mount.
    I do have a lvl 20 Stone Companion.

    Current GS is 10.8K

    I do have have 4 artifacts, none are past lvl 29 right now, I resisted the urge to level them up from my other toons.
    Only gear have bought is a non epic sword and the shards to make the lesser vorpal.

    Class ones CW, HR, and GWF
    and Waters.

    I did not use any class guide to selecting my powers and feats, I choose whatever I thought would be helpful or useful for how I play.

    I tried to keep the alt pretty close to normal. As well as close to the bare entry requirements.

    I am gonna be entering IWP in a couple of minutes for the first time on this alt, and will let anyone interesting know how it goes.

    Prepare to die :)

    (Seriously though, the Heroic Encounters will murder you)
  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Um, good luck!
  • nurmoodnurmood Member Posts: 342 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Well if you have a set with regeneration and Def you dont necessarily die in Encounters - depends on the build tho. But prepare tu burn a lot of potions!

    /edit: the Stone adds like 2k GS
  • thegrandexenothegrandexeno Member Posts: 239 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    cayapp wrote: »
    Okay gonna test out just how really difficult IWD is on my brand new GWF.

    No epic set gear.
    Lesser Vorpal.
    No Soul Forged.
    3 Dread ring boons only.
    Using 50% speed mount.
    I do have a lvl 20 Stone Companion.

    Current GS is 10.8K

    I do have have 4 artifacts, none are past lvl 29 right now, I resisted the urge to level them up from my other toons.
    Only gear have bought is a non epic sword and the shards to make the lesser vorpal.

    Class ones CW, HR, and GWF
    and Waters.

    I did not use any class guide to selecting my powers and feats, I choose whatever I thought would be helpful or useful for how I play.

    I tried to keep the alt pretty close to normal. As well as close to the bare entry requirements.

    I am gonna be entering IWP in a couple of minutes for the first time on this alt, and will let anyone interesting know how it goes.

    Weeell...

    as that famous astronomer said: "Prepare Uranus" :cool:
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  • cayappcayapp Member Posts: 826 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    LOL...MY HR rocks in IWD...but he is very welled geared and all. My CW does okay too, I do not play my other lvl 60 toons. You also have to realize I play tested almost exclusively on preview with mod 3 so I do know how every encounter should go, and I know where every quest is.

    I wanted to see how it would be there meeting the min requirements.

    Status so far.

    Completed all my quests with ease.

    First HE The Mother Lode..well can't really can't this one only me and a CW showed up and we failed. I died 5 times before the time ran out.

    Marauding Barbarians went fine solo, used a couple of potions. It was a non kick your *** version.

    2nd Mother Loade about 12 people there...got revived once...was the tank on the giant.

    3rd Mother Loade ...crashed as the giant arrived.

    Logged back in to The Remorahaz HE at 75% health. Got the 150 black ice reward and all...but no gloves lol.

    I do not have any real conclusions or opinions yet about min spec entering IWD.
  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    My HR for some reason is awful with like 13k gs. Each of my other classes manage to do it alright. My HR is the only one who can't seem to handle bugged 2-3 man HEs (solo).
  • cayappcayapp Member Posts: 826 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    So far...I am only seeing you have to play smarter and less room for error.

    My HR just did a bugged one totally solo, during me running his dailies very fast, but you know my HR hardly ever stands still.
  • arcmoon99arcmoon99 Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited May 2014
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  • vaultfairyvaultfairy Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Just got into IWD as a DC and OHEMGEE!!! I'm getting my *** handed to me, you will be much better off than me at least. :o
  • cayappcayapp Member Posts: 826 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    This is just a test and some fun for me. I wanted to try this near the min requirements.

    AND WOOT got my black ice gauntlets in 1 1/2 The Remorahaz.
  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Close to min requirements with mediocre gear & not following a class guide? Sounds like my CW & GWF in icewind. :D (The GWF is doing ok, the CW just gets plastered all over the place. No armor enchant, rank 5/6 other ones, lesser bilethorn on the GWF/lesser lightning on the CW; Lillend & basic white cleric as their companions. Dread Ring lair purples for gear. No set bonuses.)

    Haven't bothered with the ~10k DC, the other CW (fire spec), or the 11k GF.
  • bioshrikebioshrike Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,729 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    If you have a decent supply of potions, and are smart about the groups of enemies you attack for the daily quests, (being sure to avoid unwanted adds and such), you should be ok. I recommend switching to a cleric companion between groups, to reduce downtime between groups. I'd also recommend hooking up with other people instead of trying to solo the heroic encounters, (perhaps focus on the barbarian raiders, protect the merchant, or totem of Auril HEs for the time being)...

    OP: You mentioned you didn't have any epic set gear - do you at least have some purple gear, or at least all blue gear?

    EDIT: I noticed you said you had a lesser vorpal, so you must at least have an epic or blue weapon...
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  • cayappcayapp Member Posts: 826 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I am doing this for fun and to see why everyone is whining so bad about how hard this mod is. My thoughts so far being at just above the entry requirements is people should not be whining but enjoying the challenge vs DR or Sharander if they are indeed there with just the bare min requirements.

    It is a challenge, but fun, you have to actually think about what the hell your doing and be aware of your surroundings at all time.

    I purposely kept my GS and boon to the min for this test. The 2-3 HE are not a problem for me to solo. I do not use a cleric companion at all.

    Yes I die some, though it is more due to either black ice damage or not getting out of multiple red areas quick enough and I do not have soul forged.

    Yeah I do have a epic sword on this alt, almost all of my gear is blue, I have 4 epic items, 2 rings, sword, and now gloves. I got everything as drops but my sword, bought it for 625 AD on teh AH. Not out of the realm of a very casual player. My lesser vorpal I made. I did get a coal ward off my HR for that though.

    Got black ice gloves on my 2nd THe Remorahaz today.
  • pharoazarpharoazar Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Having a tough time with my 10.2k CW. But I'm working it slowly and things are improving. I'm not much of one for chasing numbers but a GS of 12K+ seems to be a good survival marker. I have 13K+ on my HR and GF and they both do pretty well.
  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    This is a cool concept, intentionally, doing the content in low gear/boons... Kudos to you bud! *high five* :cool:
    vaultfairy wrote: »
    Just got into IWD as a DC and OHEMGEE!!!
    It definitely is a hard hitting zone, that's for sure! lol
    vaultfairy wrote: »
    JI'm getting my *** handed to me, you will be much better off than me at least. :o
    DC's, to me, are great in Icewind Dale from a party standpoint, particularly in the Epic HE's... So just roll with a team, it will help a lot and speed it up for ya! :)
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  • rickcase276rickcase276 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,404 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I just have my 14.1k GS DC (High Prophet set) and my 14.3 GS GF (High General) in IWD at the moment. And honestly, my cleric is having an easier time of it than the GF is, I think mostly because of more AOE damage on the cleric. Well in IceWind Pass, at any rate, they are about the same in Dwarven Valley. Both can solo the 2-3 HEs, but not without a lot of kiting and such. Neither have gotten their gauntlets, but not really a surprise as both do enough damage, but not lots of damage. My cleric has lesser negation and lesser Frost enchants, and mostly 6s with a few 7s. My guardian has lesser terror and lesser elven battle, and 6s and 7s.
  • ashnvfashnvf Member Posts: 294 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I think there are some bugs with the mob damage in IWD. There are some mobs that can essentially 1 shot any of my characters (CW, GWF, TR) all with 16K+gs.

    Most of the mobs are easy, but I think a few slipped through the cracks and are just dealing damage that is way out of line.
  • query523query523 Member Posts: 1,515 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Easy. GWF is broken. Just hit a pot on your unstoppable cycle and you can clear it.
  • valwrynvalwryn Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,620 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    GWFs seem to have it easy in IWD. My cleric has teamed up with a few different GWFs on different Blue HEs. The two of us were having no problems but then everybody shows up just as the boss spawns.
    We could have taken them. :mad:

    It's the purple HEs that GWFs gets creamed at when they try it alone........without backup.........a few wizards and rangers laughing at him from the snowy hill. :rolleyes:
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  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    I'm focusing on my GF first in IWD. My DC and GWF have only spent one day in there to get the ball rolling.

    The GF is is full T2, Ancient weapons, full Dread boons, 2 Sharandar boons, has 5 artifacts to choose from (4 blue, 1 green) and is orientated towards DPS and it takes some effort in there. I avoid the Totem if I am by myself because the 2nd wave wipes me, but I can manage the 2-3 HEs. The Bear Tribe can be a pain though.

    My GWF is only 2-part Avatar of War, normal Vorpal, rank 5s & 6s, missing 1 Dread boon, has 2 Sharandar boons and has 5 artifacts (lower leveled than the GFs) and he just carves through IWD.

    Long story short; as with the rest of this game, GWF is ezmode.
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  • cayappcayapp Member Posts: 826 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    ashnvf wrote: »
    I think there are some bugs with the mob damage in IWD. There are some mobs that can essentially 1 shot any of my characters (CW, GWF, TR) all with 16K+gs.

    Most of the mobs are easy, but I think a few slipped through the cracks and are just dealing damage that is way out of line.

    Those mobs that can one shot you....are using extensive black ice damage attacks and/or several black ice damage attacks are hitting you at once. It is working as intended.
  • cayappcayapp Member Posts: 826 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    valwryn wrote: »
    GWFs seem to have it easy in IWD. My cleric has teamed up with a few different GWFs on different Blue HEs. The two of us were having no problems but then everybody shows up just as the boss spawns.
    We could have taken them. :mad:

    It's the purple HEs that GWFs gets creamed at when they try it alone........without backup.........a few wizards and rangers laughing at him from the snowy hill. :rolleyes:

    Any class is gonna get creamed on any purple solo.
  • cayappcayapp Member Posts: 826 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    I must say something on this low GS, bad enchants, 3 boons only fun test and min requirement test, I started.

    I have never played a melee class in any game, I have only played ranged and almost 100% of the time a caster. So I do not play it well. I also rushed my leveling up, took me about 2 days to get to 60, Then I rushed my DR boons to get 3. I did the DR round the night I got 60, went to bed, did another round of DR, used 4 relics I had and bought the rest of the relics to get to the 3rd boon.

    Like I previously stated, I pretty much tried to keep the alt as close as I could to what you would see from a true new player running around.

    Obviously I do have some advantages with have a stable of already lvl 60 toons as well as I totally knowing the content in IWD and what it takes to win every HE in IWD.
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