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GWF with twice as many hits

hughjanus4hughjanus4 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 34 Arc User
edited May 2014 in The Militia Barracks
I'm a 15k GWF and I use ACT after every battle (VT in particular here). I usually do ~7,000 EncDPS but I came across another GWF (17k) who was geared up and doing ~11,000 DPS. He somehow had 3 times as many hits as I did, something ridiculous like 14,000 hits and did 2.5 times as much damage, even though I did twice as many crits (I have a pvorp he had a pplague).

He took 1.5M damage to my 1M so he was able to go unstoppable more often and therefor have more hits but how is it possible to get up to ridiculous numbers of hits like that? That's far more than I've ever seen for a GWF. And we were using pretty much the same powers. He put three 15.5k CWs to shame by more than 2,000 DPS and 3 times the hits as well.

Steroids? PCP? Both?
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  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Don't know but would love to know too. I usually am at the top of the paingiver chart, yet, in one of the last Karrundax runs i did, there was this GWF with gear and GS A LOT worse than mine, low crit, lower power, 1 blue artifact, and he could output A LOT more DPS than me.

    Like 10k GS vs 15k GS and he didn't even have a weapon enchant.

    I mean, even if i sucked and he was uber-pro at PvE, the gear difference alone would not allow such a huge DPS difference. So i guess it's something similar to what you described.

    That was so weird, and i'm super-curious now. I want to know the secret!
  • morsitansmorsitans Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1,284 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    Do plaguefire ticks count as hits?

    Because that'd explain a lot of the "hits" difference. Plus VT is a good dungeon for out-damaging CWs, because the major bossfight is essentially entirely single target.
  • wixxgs1chtwixxgs1cht Member Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    morsitans wrote: »
    Do plaguefire ticks count as hits?

    I'm pretty sure they do. Other than that: What encounters did you use and what encounters did that guy use? Furthermore, was he IV or SM?
    Also to you, pando83
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  • demidogzdemidogz Member Posts: 259 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    Gear differences and Deep Gash (bye DG you'll be missed) probably.

    I'm curious, how did so much of your damage come from Sure Strike alone?

    What about Wicked Strike?
  • wixxgs1chtwixxgs1cht Member Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Easy explanation: He used WS while you used Sure also on trash clearing. Also, he most likely used IBS in a very smart manner. That alone can make a multi million difference.
    Either ways, I'm positive that a PC setup would even outperform that. That was my first guess and why I asked which encounters you both used.

    Edit: Well, it all doesn't matter. This is a thing of the past now :-)
  • forumnamesarelamforumnamesarelam Member Posts: 126 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    hughjanus4 wrote: »
    I know who the guy is and emailed him asking nicely, but he hasn't written me back.

    As for Plague Fire ticks, below you can see that it only accounted for 3% of his 13M damage. Those hits have to have been real swings in order to account for that much damage.

    In my time of using ACT, I can say he's got the highest combat stats I've ever seen. I have the combat log if anyone wants to see.

    His 13.4M damage came from:

    Deep Gash 40%
    Wicked Strike 11%
    Indomitable Battle Strike 11%
    Sure Strike 9%
    Frontline Surge 8%
    Spinning Strike 6%
    Not So Fast 4%
    Restoring Strike 4%
    Plague Fire Enchantment 3%
    Threatening Rush 2%
    ...and so on

    My 6M damage came from:

    Deep Gash 42%
    Sure Strike 37%
    Indomitable Battle Strike 9%
    Frontline Surge 4%
    Restoring Strike 3%
    Spinning Strike 3%
    ...and so on

    Yes, I haven't been using Wicked Strike and I feel that has something to do with it too?

    And his power was ~8900 and mine was ~8550.

    He also healed for 1.2M, 71% of which he got from Life Steal.

    He was decked out, he had an Eye, Lantern, and Book of the Dead--all orange! (his GS was ~17.3k)

    Dude... he was using AOE attacks and you were sticking mostly to single targets. It's pretty obvious how he was doing so much more damage.

    More hits = more crits = more deep gash ticks.
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    wixxgs1cht wrote: »
    Easy explanation: He used WS while you used Sure also on trash clearing. Also, he most likely used IBS in a very smart manner. That alone can make a multi million difference.
    Either ways, I'm positive that a PC setup would even outperform that. That was my first guess and why I asked which encounters you both used.

    Edit: Well, it all doesn't matter. This is a thing of the past now :-)

    yeah smart use of ibs could give huge dps boost also wicked strike used to be wicked before on instigator ;) ty to deep gash it hited 5-5.7k crtics on my instigator and 1.3- 1.5k+ticks
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  • wixxgs1chtwixxgs1cht Member Posts: 430 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    The "small" bonus, as you describe it, was a game changer. If your IBS would crit while delivering a killing blow, nearby enemies (don't know the radius) would get marked and ALL receive the corresponding DG ticks. Utilizing that in a singularity with weak, subject to 1-shot, mobs would net you some VERY nice damage*, scaling with the amount of mobs nearby. It's still very nice, even tho not as nice as pre mod3 due to the DG fix.

    *: depending on debuffs etc, numbers of 5k+ a tick on 15+ mobs weren't too rare to witness in a CN/yolo pull run.
  • forumnamesarelamforumnamesarelam Member Posts: 126 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2014
    hughjanus4 wrote: »
    Even though he did 14,000 hits (2.5 times as many as me) I still did twice the number of criticals.

    He probably had more aggro from mobs on him, which means his determination was filling up faster, hence more unstoppable.

    You're going to have to eventually accept one of these explanations as the truth, otherwise you're defending your own poor performance with an excuse that is tantamount to "sunspots" or "gremlins". :D
  • masterjewstarmasterjewstar Member Posts: 563
    edited May 2014
    also IBS has a good target cap so he could have just used it in all the right places it's a huge damage spike when gathered up if gathered aggro as previously said.
  • lewel555lewel555 Member Posts: 616 Arc User
    edited May 2014
    Any way, it's based on DG, it's history now.
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