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alexgabriel23
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 276
from what i see as a guardian fighter player i dont have acces to any dungeon except PK/FH
nobody wants me everybody constantly tells me GF is usesles and frm what i see on private test realm nothing changes to guardian fighter except the "KNIGHT CAPTAIN SET" its getting a huge nerf ..... so with the very op set kc i couldnt get anywhere to play as pve with the nerfed kc set im going to leave this class and maybe this game .....
nobody wants me everybody constantly tells me GF is usesles and frm what i see on private test realm nothing changes to guardian fighter except the "KNIGHT CAPTAIN SET" its getting a huge nerf ..... so with the very op set kc i couldnt get anywhere to play as pve with the nerfed kc set im going to leave this class and maybe this game .....
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DC sunburt only throw away few amounts of mobs and i dont why singularity keeps pull everything in its range. Without singularity and a more chaotic fights i bet parties will start to ask for GF's more even if the only objective is to gather mobs so aoer's can do the usual tons of dmg.
The only thing that keeps me playing neverwinter is the combat but if the combat will keep broken like it is now.....
nerf the CW? then how the heck do you do DD runs! your trying to cross play classes when in reality they need to get rid of PVP or make PVP a sep part of your char altogether and think outside the box make it so you choose a totally different path for PVP and PVE 2 parts to a char not one. its their only way to fix the classes in PVP in my own opinion. this way they can start from scratch with PVP they are trying to nerf/fix stuff for two totally separate games PVP and PVE and one nerf effects the other end way to much....
GF needs to be reworked so he can actually defend his teammates (marking party members so GF will take some of their damage or/and give them % of his stats, giving GF stamina that would work as guard when guard meter is empty but instead of blocking damage it would reduce it by 50+% or give 50+% dmg res while blocking; note: stamina and guard meter would recover separately but cannot recover while shield is up)
The one who would qq will be entire playerbase because dungeons are usually designed to fight 5+ elite mobs and then what? 4CW+DC teams?
PS what the hell is wrong with people? Instead of suggesting buff for class they're usually yelling for nerf of others
Dude. This is like the 4th or 5th time i've seen a post just like this. You do not have to listen to "others". Play your own way. Start YOUR OWN parties, make friends, join a guild, surround yourself with people who don't troll/visit these forums. I have played my GF since beta, he is my main, he is my fav. I have seen no difference in anything you have stated since the beginning(though, i just play the game and do not care about xset or ygearscore). Yes, i agree it has been a harder road compared to other classes i've played but still is the most reliable char. for ME. This game is what you make of it not others.
anything they add to a GF, wont make other ppl to swtich from 4cw 1 dc to a normal setup like in other mmos like GF/CW/HR/TR/dc or GF/CW/GWF/TR/dc they will always preffer 10-20 targets on singularity spam or unlimited target on opressive force and other similar stuffs
oh my that explains all thoose parties I was in past week, all thoose times I was doing DD with my GF, GWF, HR, CW and DC must have been dream or something...
but seriously: why do you think people prefer 2+CW in party? Because GF can't hold aggro of that ammount of mobs, GF can't take that ammount of damage, can't deal that much of damage and cannot dodge.
So ask yourself: where's design flaw, is it in particular classes, dungeon design or in players gameplay
I'm sorry, I have a number of GFs in my guild and we've never not run a dungeon without one. If there are none around, we specifically look for one to PIG with us. You're believing in the QQ party train, simple as that.
I don't believe I've EVER told a GF that I don't want to party with them because they have a useless TAB function. If they are competent, and don't break our rules, we typically invite them to our guild, even had a few leave their guilds for ours.
We don't discriminate, its part of our guild, if we were hardcore, we'd have requirements akin to EoA, with specific GS and enchantment ranks required, but we don't, we are casual and don't care about QQ players like yourself, stop believing that GF is somehow unfavored - you can either play him well or you can't, that's the only factor you should be concerned about.
It seems though the problem they made was designing the GF class as tank as if Neverwinter was an MMO that requires the tank/dps/healer setup, which it doesn't. In PVE, GFs really do need some kind of buff and it could be done in a number of ways. They would give them more AoE damage, or more single target damage, or some type of team utility.
If it was up to me, I'd make their AoE taunt ability guaranteed to hold aggro until the ability was ready to cast again, and also do some damage with high threat. A good example of how this could be useful, especially after they nerf CW AoE dmg, would be easily being able to kite all the mobs on Hrimnir(FH), allowing the 4 other players to focus on nuking the boss.
Or: a GF tanks the elites and the TR kills them while a balanced CWs deal with what's around the elites.
I think the issue stems from how enemies attack players - some armored GF can stand between an enemy and a squishy, and the enemy can happily target and attack the squishy right through the GF like they weren't even there. In "real life" the enemy would have to somehow fire through the GF, and that's what's missing here. A GF can't stand between an enemy and a teammate and "force" the enemy to attack them, while simultaneously shielding said teammate from harm. We need a mechanic where a GF creates a protected area behind themselves while blocking AND if a GF gets between an enemy and a teammate, that enemy should have to attack them if they want to get to the other teammate...
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there has been quite a bit of information concerning class balance provided more recently by the devs indicating that all classes are getting looked at and some changes have already been announced.
rant-filled complaints are not productive nor are they considered constructive. for those reasons, we are going to close this thread.