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Fixing PVP without breaking PVE
shipoffools
Member Posts: 8 Arc User
I play mainly PVE, but I do enjoy PVP now and then. With that said, I have a rational fix for PVP that would allow fine tuning of PVP and PVE without causing undue issues with either one.
Simply, at level 10-ish when you are sent to the Trade of Blades with the Domination quest, you'd unlock a second set up of both Feats and Powers.
So at level 10, you'd approach the Trade of Blades, and explained that when you enter into the PVP arena, your powers and feats will reflect the powers and feats chosen from the PVP tree, all other times your powers and feats will reflect those chosen from the PVE tree.
The game mechanic already is set up to switch characters between the PVE and PVP modes (suppression of healing, unable to use PVE potions, health stones, etc and the suppression of pets) so this is just a change to have the Q, E, R, 1, 2 reflect an alternate power set.
Let's say we pick on the GF build designed to keep player's pinned without any chance to save themselves. As a GF, it's a great PVE skill when dealing with the stronger non-boss mobs. Enough PVP people complain about it, and eventually it'll be 'tuned' in such a way that a highly effective PVE combination of powers and feats will be reduced in effectiveness, or simply nerfed to the point of uselessness. With a dual-spec system in play with non-related powers the PVP feats and powers could be tuned for balanced PVP while leaving the PVE powers and feats untouched.
Also having true PVP and PVE power/feat trees means that the game is taking PVP as seriously as they take PVE, more people would play in the PVP portion of the game for more than the ability to score 24000 points for the PVP artifact and then quit playing in the events.
It shouldn't be a complex issue of coding, more than half of it is already done. Adding a second set of bindings and a new power/feat tree would not be difficult. Ask the players - they know what they want and it would make the game a lot more fun and would put a new longevity into the game.
Simply, at level 10-ish when you are sent to the Trade of Blades with the Domination quest, you'd unlock a second set up of both Feats and Powers.
So at level 10, you'd approach the Trade of Blades, and explained that when you enter into the PVP arena, your powers and feats will reflect the powers and feats chosen from the PVP tree, all other times your powers and feats will reflect those chosen from the PVE tree.
The game mechanic already is set up to switch characters between the PVE and PVP modes (suppression of healing, unable to use PVE potions, health stones, etc and the suppression of pets) so this is just a change to have the Q, E, R, 1, 2 reflect an alternate power set.
Let's say we pick on the GF build designed to keep player's pinned without any chance to save themselves. As a GF, it's a great PVE skill when dealing with the stronger non-boss mobs. Enough PVP people complain about it, and eventually it'll be 'tuned' in such a way that a highly effective PVE combination of powers and feats will be reduced in effectiveness, or simply nerfed to the point of uselessness. With a dual-spec system in play with non-related powers the PVP feats and powers could be tuned for balanced PVP while leaving the PVE powers and feats untouched.
Also having true PVP and PVE power/feat trees means that the game is taking PVP as seriously as they take PVE, more people would play in the PVP portion of the game for more than the ability to score 24000 points for the PVP artifact and then quit playing in the events.
It shouldn't be a complex issue of coding, more than half of it is already done. Adding a second set of bindings and a new power/feat tree would not be difficult. Ask the players - they know what they want and it would make the game a lot more fun and would put a new longevity into the game.
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the issue here is duel specing may be "seen" by the company as a drain on zen sales. Whether it is or not. We can only pray for a setup like rift has. Specing is something rift got spot on, in my opinion.
Enforce rainbow parties in PvP ---- 10v10 PvP ----
Someone in another thread made a suggestion to buff a certain class because his PvE spec performed badly in PvP matches and he thought he shouldn't have to spec specifically for PvP to do good in PvP matches. It's ridiculous that people think a class warrants buffs in PvP because PvE spec characters perform badly.
What's even more ridiculous though, is that there isn't a duel-spec or even a pvp-only-spec option available. The ability to complain about PvE specs performing badly in PvP shouldn't even be an option because their should be a secondary pvp-only-spec enabled in PvP matches.
Duel speccing? I don't know about that. It seems like a lot of work. The key, I believe, is having tenacity effect classes differently. For example, a GF should get less defense from tenacity but when they hit something their damage should be reduced less by their opponents tenacity.
I don't think so - quite the opposite actually... The vast majority have a PVE main and if they are serious about PVP, they will grind up another character spec'd and geared to PVP with. Giving players the ability to have a PVE and a PVP spec will actually have more people spending Zen/AD to 'get the perfect character'. Hell I'd even pay for a separate PVP power/feat tree so I didn't have to grind up another toon in PVE just to re-spec for PVP AND re-gear it.
I love the game, and it has such amazing potential, but this isn't the 90's anymore. If you want to have a PVP game - and clearly Module 3 is indicating a larger emphasis on PVP then the designers need to jump in with both cheeks. Halfassing the PVP portion of the game isn't going to keep people happy.