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Suggestion: Please don't force me to play a class I have no interest in
ianthewizard2012
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Currently, I play only one class because it is one I'm interested in. Personally, I have no interest in playing the rest five classes. And other classes I'm interested in haven't been introduced into this game.
However, according to release notes, if I want to get the class artifact of my class, I have to have at least one different class and level it to level 60.
That requirement really is too much for players who are playing only one class. Being forced to play a class you are not interested in is not fun.
Even if I create a different class, level it to level 60, and get my class artifact, I will then delete that class because it has no value anymore. I don't think that worth my time.
Please don't force me to play a class I have no interest in. Thanks.
However, according to release notes, if I want to get the class artifact of my class, I have to have at least one different class and level it to level 60.
That requirement really is too much for players who are playing only one class. Being forced to play a class you are not interested in is not fun.
Even if I create a different class, level it to level 60, and get my class artifact, I will then delete that class because it has no value anymore. I don't think that worth my time.
Please don't force me to play a class I have no interest in. Thanks.
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If you want these somewhat "special" artifacts, do it.
Otherwise, just ignore this, it's not like as if the artifacts are any better than the existing ones anyway. (maybe the GWF's artifact is decent but not good enough for me to care)
This is INCORRECT.
There will be Six class-specific artifacts:
Cleric Artifact
Wizard Artifact
Ranger Artifact
Rogue Artifact
Guardian Artifact
Great Weapon Fighter Artifact
Now, for example if I only play ONE character that happens to be a Wizard - I can get the Wizard Artifact, which is the class-specific artifact for Wizards. (It is the class artifact for my class.)
What they (the release notes) say is: once I get that Wizard Artifact on my Wizard, then any alts I might create later can *also* have that Wizard Artifact, even if that alt is not a Wizard. However, if I want the Rogue's Artifact for my Wizard, then I'll have to create an alt that is a Rogue and go get the Rogue Artifact with my Rogue. Once I do that, then my Wizard will also have the Rogue Artifact in addition to my Wizard Artifact.
@OP: You do not have to create any alts in order to get the proper artifact for the class you are already playing.
As they can't as present be used to refine future artifacts then these artifacts have severe drawbacks.
You do need 2 classes or two lvl 60 characters of the same class at level 60 and able to qualify for the new mod ,look
Sorry but this is a game that requires a ton of money (real) or a ton of grinding time which is WHY it is FREE.
Ah! I missed that. Thank you for correcting me.
I think getting more artifacts a) for free and b) for ALL you characters is a big enough incentive to level more characters. But the requirement for already having a second toon leveled is a bit of a bummer. It's probably going to frustrate and discourage more players than it will encourage, which we all know is bad for business.
REQUIRING an Alt char is simply annoying and will more than likely REDUCE the casual time I play.
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I doubt the incentive is enough to cause people to purchase additional character slots, but a nice benefit if you purchase them anyway and it may push fence-sitters into making a purchase they've been thinking about anyway.
It's among the same reasons they have created the Companion "Active Bonus" mechanic and the whole "Collections" paradigm: because there ARE people who will react positively to these ideas and purchase more companions than they might have otherwise.
I reiterate: This isn't a bad thing, because those people spending this money on these things allows other people to play an outstanding computer game for *FREE*. Perhaps I should say it a third time and shout it out? This is a game which must cost a lot of money to develop and continue to develop. Someone has to pay for it. I say again: I don't mind spending my money so you can play for free because I'm getting something I want.
So cut Cryptic (and PWE and any other company that uses these paradigms) a break.
No one is forcing you to get the new artifacts. If you want them then you have to meet the requirements, if you do not want to meet the requirements then you do not get the shiny.
How are you (or anyone else) being "forced" to do anything you don't want to do? Seriously, find another argument because this one is way over-used and underwhelming as any kind of validation.
I mean: *really?*. THIS is your argument?
And if they "find a more appropriate way" - I'm willing to bet someone will be whining that they are "being forced" to comply. This is abso-freakin-lutely the most "appropriate" way to do this. So how about cutting your losses while still ahead. Are you even reading what you are writing? Perhaps you should. Srsly.
This is a completely appropriate way to entice players to *spend money* and I fully agree with it and support it. Go, go, Cryptic. Good for you, it's a great idea. Yeah. Really. It is. As someone who spends a *lot* of real money buying Zen so I can have intangible shiny stuff in-game (and others can play for free,) I say: Moar plz.
There is simply no way to even start the campaign without ending up with a pocket full of the stuff. And while, you can eventually learn how to purify it, to make it safer. I find it hard to believe Ian would want to deal with all that nasty evil stuff, to even get to that point.
make a second character, level it to 11, then only log into it once every day to invoke. maybe, if you're interested in making this journey faster, invoke at the beginning and end of your normal play session.
you'll have a level 60 character in about 3 weeks.
you spent about 2 hours getting them to 11, and 30 seconds at the beginning and end of each play session, that's it!
enjoy your free artifact.
All characters have value (AD generation and invocation).
It's seriously no big deal that they require more than one level 60 character considering that you can make an account full of lvl 60s without actively playing them. If you actually try, you can get a character to 60 in days without undue stress.
In any case, it's highly advisable to play other classes even if you don't really prefer them. You become a far better player for it.
Contagion - Cleric
Testament - Wizard
Pestilence - Ranger
Dominion - Paladin
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Just play your favorite class twice and you will have your two level 60 alts to qualify.