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diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 2,894 Arc User
So I've ran an epic temple of the spider dungeon with some people I know just to make some tests on preview, and the buff from power seems kind of huge, especially at high levels... I've seen damage to a currently unknown scale. People one-shotting priestesses, driders dying in 3 hits, and my cleric having crit sunburst hits for 20k. That's insane. I suspect some nasty interactions with debuffs, because it seems to be worse than usual when i'm fully buffing the party and more or less equivalent to live when I'm just healing.
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  • krimbarbarrojakrimbarbarroja Member Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Diogene0, as per the tooltip, not much have changed...I have no idea why you are seeing such weird things (One-shotted priestresses? Holy HAMSTER...). Is this happenning to all classes?
  • gentlemancrushgentlemancrush Member, Cryptic Developer Posts: 445 Cryptic Developer
    edited March 2014
    Can you show some screenshots of how much power you have? The formula it uses now is not a 1:1 with what existed before because of the way power interacted with individual powers.
  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 2,894 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Can you show some screenshots of how much power you have? The formula it uses now is not a 1:1 with what existed before because of the way power interacted with individual powers.

    6700, up to 7600 with rising hope. High prophet, perfect vorpal. Still that's way beyond my best crits on live, 20k sunbursts wasn't an exception when my usual crit sunburst is about 12-13k on live. What impressed me most is our GWF repeteadly one-shotting priestesses and the TR I know well and which is usually rather low on the damage side, killing a drider in under 0.5s, something he doesn't do currently on live even if i'm buffing him.
  • zippichzippich Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Hi, I have around 8500 power on my GF and realized I have different damage tooltip values on Live and Preview:



    Power
    Live
    Preview


    Lunging Strike
    7866-8697
    6535-7774


    Enforced Threat
    2848-3223
    2948-3507


    Anvil of Doom
    7429-8178
    5896-7014


    Frontline Surge
    3188-3608
    3302-3928


    Bull Strike
    5082-5782
    5503-6546


    Indomitable Battle Strike
    7331-8297
    7594-9033


    Cleave
    1320-1491
    1356-1613



    So quite a big nerf (around 1000 dmg) on two heavy hitters - Lunging S. and Anvil of D.
    And probably as a tradoff boost to two powers mostly used in PvP (Bull S. and Indomitable).

    Is this working as intended? :)
  • l3g10nna1rel3g10nna1re Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    diogene0 wrote: »
    So I've ran an epic temple of the spider dungeon with some people I know just to make some tests on preview, and the buff from power seems kind of huge, especially at high levels... I've seen damage to a currently unknown scale. People one-shotting priestesses, driders dying in 3 hits, and my cleric having crit sunburst hits for 20k. That's insane. I suspect some nasty interactions with debuffs, because it seems to be worse than usual when i'm fully buffing the party and more or less equivalent to live when I'm just healing.

    My experience is the Oppisite for the Hunter

    The power rework has caused some major damage decreases for this Class

    6844 power currently
    4343 Critical
    2200 Armour penetration
    1500 Recovery
    Gs 16k+
    Perfect Vorpal

    Crits im doing on Aimed show on Live are 21k to 36k (Max distance + Archer Feats)
    Crits im going on Preview are 9-12k with aimed shot (Max distance + Archer Feats)
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    diogene0 wrote: »
    So I've ran an epic temple of the spider dungeon with some people I know just to make some tests on preview, and the buff from power seems kind of huge, especially at high levels... I've seen damage to a currently unknown scale. People one-shotting priestesses, driders dying in 3 hits, and my cleric having crit sunburst hits for 20k. That's insane. I suspect some nasty interactions with debuffs, because it seems to be worse than usual when i'm fully buffing the party and more or less equivalent to live when I'm just healing.

    i like new power it is still to weak if u compare it to hp but at least will make some improvments for pvp not big but some 10-15% damage if u stack power atm all u can stack is hp since no use of stacking power for pvp and this is reason for so op tank builds since they lose very litle dps to stack hp

    as for damage if u had good thaum cws in team then nothing strange in 1 shoting ads with them even with no dc and his buff i hit some46- 58k crtics on live with 6k skills while cw braging for 200k+ icekinifes

    and think some dc power buffs need to be changed to be more in line with new power
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    zippich wrote: »
    Hi, I have around 8500 power on my GF and realized I have different damage tooltip values on Live and Preview:



    Power
    Live
    Preview


    Lunging Strike
    7866-8697
    6535-7774


    Enforced Threat
    2848-3223
    2948-3507


    Anvil of Doom
    7429-8178
    5896-7014


    Frontline Surge
    3188-3608
    3302-3928


    Bull Strike
    5082-5782
    5503-6546


    Indomitable Battle Strike
    7331-8297
    7594-9033


    Cleave
    1320-1491
    1356-1613



    So quite a big nerf (around 1000 dmg) on two heavy hitters - Lunging S. and Anvil of D.
    And probably as a tradoff boost to two powers mostly used in PvP (Bull S. and Indomitable).

    Is this working as intended? :)

    launging had toltip bugged on live my lauinging have 5k damage there and only hits 3-3.6 k
  • l3g10nna1rel3g10nna1re Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    @gentlemancrush

    The power rework has caused some major damage decreases for this HR Class i was wondering how the new formular works i also wanted to know about the Armour / resistance and damage output of the new mobs because even when i try a level 61 normal/weak mob my crits are not going past 12k where as before they went to 39k on a Strong Mob

    6844 power currently
    4343 Critical
    2200 Armour penetration
    1500 Recovery
    Gs 16k+
    Perfect Vorpal

    Crits im doing on Aimed show on Live are 21k to 36k (Max distance + Archer Feats)
    Crits im going on Preview are 9-12k with aimed shot (Max distance + Archer Feats)
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    @gentlemancrush

    The power rework has caused some major damage decreases for this HR Class i was wondering how the new formular works i also wanted to know about the Armour / resistance and damage output of the new mobs because even when i try a level 61 normal/weak mob my crits are not going past 12k where as before they went to 39k on a Strong Mob

    6844 power currently
    4343 Critical
    2200 Armour penetration
    1500 Recovery
    Gs 16k+
    Perfect Vorpal

    Crits im doing on Aimed show on Live are 21k to 36k (Max distance + Archer Feats)
    Crits im going on Preview are 9-12k with aimed shot (Max distance + Archer Feats)

    did u test on dummy or mobs? there some high resist mobs in new zone i know to hit 300-400 damage with at wills on my gwf
  • gentlemancrushgentlemancrush Member, Cryptic Developer Posts: 445 Cryptic Developer
    edited March 2014
    @gentlemancrush

    The power rework has caused some major damage decreases for this HR Class i was wondering how the new formular works i also wanted to know about the Armour / resistance and damage output of the new mobs because even when i try a level 61 normal/weak mob my crits are not going past 12k where as before they went to 39k on a Strong Mob

    6844 power currently
    4343 Critical
    2200 Armour penetration
    1500 Recovery
    Gs 16k+
    Perfect Vorpal

    Crits im doing on Aimed show on Live are 21k to 36k (Max distance + Archer Feats)
    Crits im going on Preview are 9-12k with aimed shot (Max distance + Archer Feats)

    I am not seeing any changes to Aimed Shot or that it had any special interaction with power. What were your test cases? Could you test on the same critter to see if that is getting involved?
  • silvereldunarisilvereldunari Member Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Talking about bugs, there seems to be a bug with rapid strike, if you hold down the attack button of this power and press alt to go to mouse mode, the attack seems to go faster and/or get some extra hits, this is only happening on test though.
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