Nobody can tell the best build because it's depend on how you use yours attacks.The only way to know is "try and fail" until you get the combination that fit you more.
Nobody can tell the best build because it's depend on how you use yours attacks.The only way to know is "try and fail" until you get the combination that fit you more.
+1 yes. for god sake play the game and learn and get your own build.
What some one does that works for them doesnt mean it will be good for you.
But if you want the easy cheeze set up. You will just be able to watch and copy the other easy cheeze set up wizards at 60.
Choke RoE Chill Strike Conduit of ice
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karokoram48204Member, Neverwinter Beta UsersPosts: 4Arc User
edited May 2013
Hey, Sorry about the trolls. I am actually going to be helpful!
I use a primarily thaumaturge build, mostly for the feat that causes arcane encounters to reduce defenses by 10%, while adding a DoT to your frost encounters. If you want to be successful in pvp, use Ray Of Enfeeblement as your tab skill, highest damage, plus it debuffs very well. Choke and Repel are pretty necessary (choke for all classes, repel mostly for rogues). The last skill is a matter of choice, either conduit of ice (only if you took the last point in thaumaturge do reduce mitigation by 15%) or chill strike for an extra mini stun. You don't use your at wills a whole lot, but the 30% increased damage within 20 feet is helpful. I haven't explored the control tree, but am very underwhelmed by it.
This is all just advice concerning a build I have been very successful with, been capped on glory many times over.
Another thing is that conduit of ice (with the feat!) is super helpful against pesky guardian fighters solo guarding points, otherwise chill strike is probably the way to go.
Hope this helps! Good luck.
Of course use Ice Knife daily, because critting for over 25k makes you feel like a super neat wizard rogue.
Hey, Sorry about the trolls. I am actually going to be helpful!
If you want to be successful in pvp, use Ray Of Enfeeblement as your tab skill, highest damage, plus it debuffs very well. Choke and Repel are pretty necessary (choke for all classes, repel mostly for rogues). The last skill is a matter of choice, either conduit of ice (only if you took the last point in thaumaturge do reduce mitigation by 15%) or chill strike for an extra mini stun. You don't use your at wills a whole lot, but the 30% increased damage within 20 feet is helpful. I haven't explored the control tree, but am very underwhelmed by it.
Of course use Ice Knife daily, because critting for over 25k makes you feel like a super neat wizard rogue.
So pretty much what I already said. This is the easy cheese build. RoE Choke CoI CS 80% of all wizards are using this because it is the easiest **** friendly build. Only problem is a lot of people know how to counter this. When they dodge your choke, be ready to run around like a headless chicken.
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So pretty much what I already said. This is the easy cheese build. RoE Choke CoI CS 80% of all wizards are using this because it is the easiest **** friendly build. Only problem is a lot of people know how to counter this. When they dodge your choke, be ready to run around like a headless chicken.
"This is the easy cheese build." No what you mean is that this is the best build. They can dodge choke, that means they have one dodge left and I have three. Please let them come after me. They'll burn one dodge trying to stay with me then get repelled. Now that they're repelled I can lay into them and burn them down.
To anyone saying "do your own build" that'd be nice if respecs didn't cost ****ing money. There's no point in "doing your own build" because if it ends up being bad you're ****ed. "Well that's your fault for not thinking it out all the way" nobody is sitting here with a pen and piece of paper for three hours planning a build. You're killing many players of the game because you don't allow respecs. Theorycrafters make up a huge percent of the game. You know the best way to theory craft? To actually do the build in game and see how it preforms. Especially because we don't know at this point exactly what allow of the terms/stats actually do.
It is the easy cheese build. It isnt the best build, as you just said no one knows the best builds and its all theory craft. This build is the easiest because it allows you to hit and run and stay safe.
You must be thinking about rogues saying they only have 2 dodges. And using repel on a good rogue only helps him break off to restealth and try his opener combo on you again.
Plus how does this build fair against multiple opponents at once? This is a single target dps build. Not really the best for PvP imo. It is as I said, the easiest because it allows you to hit and run. And if they dodge your choke like you said, you can just repel,DoT them still and run away.
But if they force you to run away from the control point you are no longer helping your team win the match. If you are using repel to clear the capture point then thats definitely better but since you are using RoE in your Tab slot you are only repeling 1 target.
Again it's a good build, for dealing with one target. It is the easiest because of choke and all the DoTs, fire and forget.
I understand why they charge for respecs, although I think they should lower the price at least.
The amount of points you have to spend on powers allows you to test out every power before upgrading them all the way. People have room to test as they level. Just most people want to come to the forums and for some reason be told the cookie cutter build.
See it in every game. I understand why people do it becasue they want "the best" build. But really what's considered the best really depends on what you are doing, and in pvp it depends on the other teams group make up and your own group make up.
But seriously look up CW pvp twitch streams and youtube videos. You will see everyone using this build. And if people didn't "do their own build" or "figure it out for themselves" no one would know about this build. Obviously someone (proabably a few people at once) came up with this build. And now every other unimaginative player is copying it.
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Ok to start off with pantamime is giving better advice here, I would not go with a cookie cutter build that isn't as effective as the alternatives. The best offense is a good defense in this game the longer u live the more dps you can deliver. With that said you wana keep you opponents immobilized. This build will not make you the best one vs one on any target but its overall effectiveness party wide is what your looking at. Perma stealth is your enemy, the cure is shard on tab you can move it around to pull them from stealth and blow them up this should eliminate most of there hp. Next your gona want to keep you enemies still and unable to attack for this potion I recommend icy rays, chill strike, and entangle. When you making you feats be sure to put all points in single dmg not in AoE. I rolled renegade to get the most effectiveness out of this but there is plenty more options. Hope this helps you get the kills ration your after.
25k ice knife? LMAO, maybe against severely low gs person with no tenacity. And your repels wont be pushing anyone around if they have tenacity. The best cws either have icy rays or shard on tab...not roe...
25k ice knife? LMAO, maybe against severely low gs person with no tenacity. And your repels wont be pushing anyone around if they have tenacity. The best cws either have icy rays or shard on tab...not roe...
I have to agree here. I use Icy Rays on tab, but my rotation is pretty similar with other posts. Choke, RoE to debuff, Icy Rays, then shard last. If Ice Knife is up, I'll use that right after RoE. Then I pretty much move around dodging, throwing up the occasional missile till the encounters comes back up. With the PVP set reducing the tab skill cd, the encounters generally come off cd in order (except RoE comes up a half second before Entangling).
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+1 yes. for god sake play the game and learn and get your own build.
What some one does that works for them doesnt mean it will be good for you.
But if you want the easy cheeze set up. You will just be able to watch and copy the other easy cheeze set up wizards at 60.
Choke RoE Chill Strike Conduit of ice
PVPer rocking it Solo queue style since the dawn of Neverwinter
I use a primarily thaumaturge build, mostly for the feat that causes arcane encounters to reduce defenses by 10%, while adding a DoT to your frost encounters. If you want to be successful in pvp, use Ray Of Enfeeblement as your tab skill, highest damage, plus it debuffs very well. Choke and Repel are pretty necessary (choke for all classes, repel mostly for rogues). The last skill is a matter of choice, either conduit of ice (only if you took the last point in thaumaturge do reduce mitigation by 15%) or chill strike for an extra mini stun. You don't use your at wills a whole lot, but the 30% increased damage within 20 feet is helpful. I haven't explored the control tree, but am very underwhelmed by it.
This is all just advice concerning a build I have been very successful with, been capped on glory many times over.
Another thing is that conduit of ice (with the feat!) is super helpful against pesky guardian fighters solo guarding points, otherwise chill strike is probably the way to go.
Hope this helps! Good luck.
Of course use Ice Knife daily, because critting for over 25k makes you feel like a super neat wizard rogue.
So pretty much what I already said. This is the easy cheese build. RoE Choke CoI CS 80% of all wizards are using this because it is the easiest **** friendly build. Only problem is a lot of people know how to counter this. When they dodge your choke, be ready to run around like a headless chicken.
PVPer rocking it Solo queue style since the dawn of Neverwinter
"This is the easy cheese build." No what you mean is that this is the best build. They can dodge choke, that means they have one dodge left and I have three. Please let them come after me. They'll burn one dodge trying to stay with me then get repelled. Now that they're repelled I can lay into them and burn them down.
To anyone saying "do your own build" that'd be nice if respecs didn't cost ****ing money. There's no point in "doing your own build" because if it ends up being bad you're ****ed. "Well that's your fault for not thinking it out all the way" nobody is sitting here with a pen and piece of paper for three hours planning a build. You're killing many players of the game because you don't allow respecs. Theorycrafters make up a huge percent of the game. You know the best way to theory craft? To actually do the build in game and see how it preforms. Especially because we don't know at this point exactly what allow of the terms/stats actually do.
You must be thinking about rogues saying they only have 2 dodges. And using repel on a good rogue only helps him break off to restealth and try his opener combo on you again.
Plus how does this build fair against multiple opponents at once? This is a single target dps build. Not really the best for PvP imo. It is as I said, the easiest because it allows you to hit and run. And if they dodge your choke like you said, you can just repel,DoT them still and run away.
But if they force you to run away from the control point you are no longer helping your team win the match. If you are using repel to clear the capture point then thats definitely better but since you are using RoE in your Tab slot you are only repeling 1 target.
Again it's a good build, for dealing with one target. It is the easiest because of choke and all the DoTs, fire and forget.
I understand why they charge for respecs, although I think they should lower the price at least.
The amount of points you have to spend on powers allows you to test out every power before upgrading them all the way. People have room to test as they level. Just most people want to come to the forums and for some reason be told the cookie cutter build.
See it in every game. I understand why people do it becasue they want "the best" build. But really what's considered the best really depends on what you are doing, and in pvp it depends on the other teams group make up and your own group make up.
But seriously look up CW pvp twitch streams and youtube videos. You will see everyone using this build. And if people didn't "do their own build" or "figure it out for themselves" no one would know about this build. Obviously someone (proabably a few people at once) came up with this build. And now every other unimaginative player is copying it.
PVPer rocking it Solo queue style since the dawn of Neverwinter
Iron Vanguard Sentinel?
I have to agree here. I use Icy Rays on tab, but my rotation is pretty similar with other posts. Choke, RoE to debuff, Icy Rays, then shard last. If Ice Knife is up, I'll use that right after RoE. Then I pretty much move around dodging, throwing up the occasional missile till the encounters comes back up. With the PVP set reducing the tab skill cd, the encounters generally come off cd in order (except RoE comes up a half second before Entangling).