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HR Forest Meditation Rank 3 Bug

vrrafvrraf Member Posts: 6 Arc User
edited April 2014 in Bug Reports (PC)
From the description Forest Meditation rank 2 gives 100% deflection during the daily, however on rank 3 this effect is not present, i.e. rank 3 Forest Meditation does not give you 100% deflection; only regen and control immunity.
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  • destinyknightdestinyknight Member Posts: 962 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    indeed this is true. it loses rank 2 benefit at rank 3
  • hiddenfatehiddenfate Banned Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Tested on a Wood Elf Ranger in the 40s-50s level range and verified.
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  • dethsdezyndethsdezyn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Agreed, please fix ASAP
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  • vrrafvrraf Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Not fixed in todays patch? does anyone from support read this?
  • hiddenfatehiddenfate Banned Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    vrraf wrote: »
    Not fixed in todays patch? does anyone from support read this?

    I have yet to find a post in this area of the forum by developers (except once or twice in the stickied posts months ago and a couple older ones, maybe once every 5 pages) so I honestly don't know.
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  • dethsdezyndethsdezyn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Any update on this?
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  • destinyknightdestinyknight Member Posts: 962 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Yeah really. This was reported multiple times right after HR was introduced.
  • blindnirvanablindnirvana Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    realized this today aswell. I've been using Forest Meditation instead of Forest Ranger because with the fix of Forest Ranger and Stormstep action now it doesn't reduce cooldowns at all not even the 3 seconds its supposed to.
  • miestanamiestana Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    ive also experienced this too. ive been doing a lot of pvp and from what i understand....deflection rating is make u ignore damage a large amount of incoming damage. so 100% should make you ignore 100% of it. but this doesnt work. im always getting gagged by TRs and GWfs. only the control immunity saves me.
  • rokkwarrrokkwarr Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I've been having issues with this as well, 100% deflect should mean taking no damage. or very minimal, yet I still get hit HARD when using it in PvE/P. That and forest ranger needs work as well seeing how it doesn't do the cooldown.
  • vrrafvrraf Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    100% chance TO DEFLECT does not mean that you deflect 100% of the damage; the deflect severity % shows you how much of the damage you will deflect.
    Lets say that you have 20% deflect severity. For the sake of the calculation lets say that the damage delt to your char is always 1000.
    During forest meditation rank 3, on every attack you should recieve 20% of 1000, i.e. 200 damage.
    However, as I said, right now the skill is broken, it does not deflect every hit.
  • destinyknightdestinyknight Member Posts: 962 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    yes Deflect chance means that you deflect every attack during this skills activation.

    meaning you take reduced damage. not No damage. That would be damage immunity.
  • sominatorsominator Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Thanks for reporting this! We're looking into it!
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  • fdsakhfduewhfiuffdsakhfduewhfiuf Member Posts: 604 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    vrraf wrote: »
    100% chance TO DEFLECT does not mean that you deflect 100% of the damage; the deflect severity % shows you how much of the damage you will deflect.
    Lets say that you have 20% deflect severity. For the sake of the calculation lets say that the damage delt to your char is always 1000.
    During forest meditation rank 3, on every attack you should recieve 20% of 1000, i.e. 200 damage.
    However, as I said, right now the skill is broken, it does not deflect every hit.

    Isn't it 800 damage? I thought 20% deflect severity would take 20% damage away.
  • destinyknightdestinyknight Member Posts: 962 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    fdsakhfduewhfiuf wrote: »
    Isn't it 800 damage? I thought 20% deflect severity would take 20% damage away.
    That is right.
  • vrrafvrraf Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Yep you are right :p I got that mixed up :)
  • quitegonejinquitegonejin Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2014
    Is this still bugged?
  • tryglitrygli Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    vrraf wrote: »
    100% chance TO DEFLECT does not mean that you deflect 100% of the damage; the deflect severity % shows you how much of the damage you will deflect.
    Lets say that you have 20% deflect severity. For the sake of the calculation lets say that the damage delt to your char is always 1000.
    During forest meditation rank 3, on every attack you should recieve 20% of 1000, i.e. 200 damage.
    However, as I said, right now the skill is broken, it does not deflect every hit.
    fdsakhfduewhfiuf wrote: »
    Isn't it 800 damage? I thought 20% deflect severity would take 20% damage away.

    Actually neither is true, deflection happens before defense. And the standard deflection severity is 50%. Let's say you have 25% defense.

    When someone hits you for 1000 damage, 50%, or 500 damage is being deflected, the other 500 damage is being lowered by your defense.

    So it's actually 1000*0,5*0,75 = 375 damage taken.

    'Is this still bugged?' Well since people thought it would negate all damage the question is 'Was it bugged at all?'. I didn't test it, but from the little experience I have with Forest Meditation, I don't think it is, or ever was bugged.
  • vrrafvrraf Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    trygli wrote: »
    Actually neither is true, deflection happens before defense. And the standard deflection severity is 50%. Let's say you have 25% defense.

    When someone hits you for 1000 damage, 50%, or 500 damage is being deflected, the other 500 damage is being lowered by your defense.

    So it's actually 1000*0,5*0,75 = 375 damage taken.

    'Is this still bugged?' Well since people thought it would negate all damage the question is 'Was it bugged at all?'. I didn't test it, but from the little experience I have with Forest Meditation, I don't think it is, or ever was bugged.

    I haven't tested it with the new patch, however the bug report is that there should be 100% chance to deflect, not that the deflection will negate 100% of the dmg. When I reported the bug the indicator that the damage is deflected was not showing; you know, the broken arrow indicator thingie right next to the damage number. Wheather the damage was deflected or not I can not be sure now, but I think that it was no indication in the "LOG" tab of beeing deflected.
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