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Tenacity Commeth This Thursday!

degraafinationdegraafination Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited March 2014 in PvE Discussion
Well, according to the NW Facebook page, Tenacity changes are around the corner. We'll see how it affects PVP here in a few days!
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  • trippysmurf1trippysmurf1 Member Posts: 188 Bounty Hunter
    edited March 2014
    sad times...
  • demidogzdemidogz Member Posts: 259 Bounty Hunter
    edited March 2014
    Woohoo! Can't wait!

    Looking forward to see some random stat pop out of nowhere just to make PvP sets... viable for PvP!

    :confused:
  • eton3000eton3000 Banned Users Posts: 230 Bounty Hunter
    edited March 2014
    IV sents should die in a car crash
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited March 2014
    Weeee! Let's make perma Tr, GWF and immortal DCs even more unkillable!
  • pers3phonepers3phone Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    WTT soon to be stupidly lame class (control wizard, now even DCs are a challenge and might kill us, GG, GG) for OP class (I'd prefer GWF thank you, I tested it and it still works like in Live, I press QER and enemies die).

    I think Cryptic should offer us this class/race change opportunity, since they completely break/change how classes work in PvP.

    5vs5 IV GWF halfling, best way to have fun? Maybe?
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    pers3phone wrote: »
    WTT soon to be stupidly lame class (control wizard, now even DCs are a challenge and might kill us, GG, GG) for OP class (I'd prefer GWF thank you, I tested it and it still works like in Live, I press QER and enemies die).

    I think Cryptic should offer us this class/race change opportunity, since they completely break/change how classes work in PvP.

    5vs5 IV GWF halfling, best way to have fun? Maybe?

    Stay the course, m8. There will be a day of reckoning when GWFreak players scream in hordes, "I can't play the class like this!", as some vital, very important nerf hits the scene.

    I'm not sure just how long the developers will simply fall blind and deaf to just how massively OP a single class is, but things will change. When the day comes, you need to have stayed the course to laugh long and hard, as you see the same hordes of people suddenly dump the class and move over to the next FotM. It's hilariously pathetic to watch.

    We need good CWs, HRs, TRs, DCs, GFs, any other class that is not GWFs. The more the merrier, in the face of the clone horde. ;)
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  • nameexpirednameexpired Member Posts: 1,282 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I wonder after this update, if in 2 weeks time with the ELO system in place, will there something like "class brackets" - e.g. GWF will get high ELO score and the PuG generator will create 5vs5 GWF fights, with 1 or 2 other extremely skilled players with another class thrown in?
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  • eton3000eton3000 Banned Users Posts: 230 Bounty Hunter
    edited March 2014
    IV sent halflings think theyre good but in reality the balancing is just bad.
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  • destinyknightdestinyknight Member Posts: 962 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Sad times is coming..
  • todesfaelletodesfaelle Member Posts: 1,370 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Only Tenacity is going in? I viewed the link, but does anyone have the specifics if Healing Depression and the Elo Matchmaking will come with the Thursday patch as well?

    This is probably their test phase for live where it gets tons of negative feedback but it'll still count as a success. I see the sense in Tenacity and Healing Depression, though. But not like this where gear has to be separated in order to become more efficient in PVP. It's silly.

    Healing Depression will affect Devoted Clerics the most. Since DC's have Righteousness, I'm imagining we'll be seeing more Buff/Debuff-oriented builds such as Buffer ACDC's (Exaltation, Astral Shield, Bastion of Health feated with Warding Shield), or Tanky Debuffer High Prophet DODC's (Prophecy of Doom, Divine Glow, Astral Shield). Or probably even a resurgence of PVP DPS DC's. Playing as a healing support will not be as viable because of HD (unless the DC stays on top of an elevation or hides behind a pillar...) + Righteousness.
  • destinyknightdestinyknight Member Posts: 962 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    todesfaelle wrote: »
    Only Tenacity is going in? I viewed the link, but does anyone have the specifics if Healing Depression and the Elo Matchmaking will come with the Thursday patch as well?

    This is probably their test phase for live where it gets tons of negative feedback but it'll still count as a success. I see the sense in Tenacity and Healing Depression, though. But not like this where gear has to be separated in order to become more efficient in PVP. It's silly.

    Healing Depression will affect Devoted Clerics the most. Since DC's have Righteousness, I'm imagining we'll be seeing more Buff/Debuff-oriented builds such as Buffer ACDC's (Exaltation, Astral Shield, Bastion of Health feated with Warding Shield), or Tanky Debuffer High Prophet DODC's (Prophecy of Doom, Divine Glow, Astral Shield). Or probably even a resurgence of PVP DPS DC's. Playing as a healing support will not be as viable because of HD (unless the DC stays on top of an elevation or hides behind a pillar...) + Righteousness.

    And that will just promote people to play cookie cutter builds in pvp. There wont be any sort of variety just because of how limiting everything will be.
  • todesfaelletodesfaelle Member Posts: 1,370 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I get what you mean, friend. It'll destroy PVP as we know today and it'll be a whole new learning curve. But then again, even without these PVP changes, everyone's still using cookiecutter builds for PVP. PVP builds mostly concentrate on performing perma-CC, in a sense where you don't last one rotation to see their next set of CC's because those CC's are associated with high damage modifiers.

    If they catch you without any means of escape, you do not last one rotation against an IV Sent, you do not last a rotation against a PVP Thaum, a PVP Root Combat HR, Cookie-cutter Executioner TR, etc. There are very limited specs you can do for PVP because the meta dictates that you either have to CC or you get CC'd. People build their characters to take away their opponents ability to be able to react against their actions. That is what PVP is right now, and Tenacity will simply change the meta to something else. People will find new ways to play PVP, and the choices will still be limited because there are limited ways to play one's class efficiently in a PVP setup.
  • demonmongerdemonmonger Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,350 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Tenacity will negate most cc effects...
    This will.....

    Make people go full power and drop cc skills...
    or
    Make people all go full Stealth Mode (from the game that is)
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    edited March 2014
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  • eton3000eton3000 Banned Users Posts: 230 Bounty Hunter
    edited March 2014
    destinyknight wrote: »
    And that will just promote people to play cookie cutter builds in pvp. There wont be any sort of variety just because of how limiting everything will be.

    i think it will just promote people to roll a gwf instead
  • todesfaelletodesfaelle Member Posts: 1,370 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    magenubbie wrote: »
    it says "Are you ready to dominate? Our PvP updates are coming this Thursday, 3/6, with new gear, a new Tenacity stat, matchmaking, and penalties for early leavers!" So I think it's a package deal. It just doesn't mention healing depression.

    Thanks, I guess that answered my original question! :)
  • twilightwatchmantwilightwatchman Member Posts: 2,007 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Glad I managed to grind the PVP artifact on my CW at the weekend, as I'll probably retire her from PVP after Thursday. Shame as I find the gameplay the most enjoyable out of my 5 toons. Oh well.
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