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dllindsey12
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My question is...if Crit useful to the HR in an Archery build. I dont believe it is because of my Correcting Aim feat. Every time i dont crit, it gives me 5% crit chance stacking until i crit. Any comments on this at all?
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Even with 30% crit base I've had it climb over 50% with Correcting Aim. So yes you still want crit so you get a good consistent base, what you don't need is a lot of crit - 2-3K is enough, instead of needing 3-4k like other classes.
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The ONLY exception here is if you're not at 24% armor penetration yet. I would slot Dark enchants over any other offensive enchants until its maxed. Whether you're pvp or pve focused you will get the most DPS boost from maximum AP. Once you get to 24% or close go all Radiant.
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Ah, you're missing a vital wrinkle in the mechanics. The good news is that this will allow you to do more damage..
The way it works.. ArPen applies first, and at best, can reduce your target to 0% mitigation. This is why people talk about a cap for PvE- the most that we've seen is 24% on a boss so far.
However, other debuffs that reduce mitigation apply after ArPen, and can push it negative. Thus, you always want your attacks to be capped, as a priority. This pushes mitigation to zero. Then the other debuffs factor in, and push it as far negative as possible. Obviously, you want as little mitigation "left over" from the ArPen stage as possible, so you get the best bang per buck out of the other mitigation reduction effects.
Why build for clearing the trash, which is mere busywork? Most of it dies before anyone can get into a proper cycle anyway, and it certainly is a terrible thing to optimise for. Bosses last long enough to make it a demonstrable advantage to do so, even if you're playing an HR.
Ludicrous assumptions made here. The extra ArP that might be over the mitigation on add's is still value added. Believe me that no one cares about how fast the trash gets cleared. The extra power you might have equipped gives you a completely tiny, minuscule amount of extra damage on add's that die instantly regardless. Without decent ArP be prepared to do a whole lot less damage to the only things that matter.
Not only that, but if you're using any kind of decent HR gear it comes with ArP by default. You aren't going to get away from it, so you might as well put it at the boss mitigation cap before dumping points into stats with really, really terrible returns. The only reason people stack power is because it doesn't have the same diminishing returns, but it's still a really terrible bonus even if it doesn't diminish.
The fact remains that even if the bosses/add's are debuffed ArP still add's a flat percentage bonus to your damage, which is quite clearly and obviously better than an extra few points of damage per hit. And by 'a few' I mean maybe 50-100 points of damage versus a flat 10-20% more damage.
Of course, if you feel that doing a few hundred to a few thousand points of damage less per hit on bosses is somehow desirable by all means break your character and don't slot any ArP at all.
Yes, and on that boss, you'd throw away (for example) 4% ArPen, i.e. 4% extra damage for a pinch of power, which although scaling linearly, offers pitiful value in comparison?
You are solving the wrong problem, it's like you're trying to optimise an aircraft for cornering on the ground, as though that was the important factor for overall performance, based on only really seeing them taxi on the apron.
Regarding those "sub bosses", epic trash dies so very quickly that you don't really have time to even debuff it properly. It's a task limited not by difficulty but by how fast most groups can move, pull and avoid going AFK. It's the least challenging part of the dungeon. No-one is impressed that you can theoretically kill trash slightly faster. By the time you have finished casting Split The Sky, the GWF already has a bunch of kills, and by the time you charge that split shot fully, the CW's Space Potato will have decimated the remainder.
The only fights that really bottleneck on ability to actually do enough damage fast enough are the bosses. The rest are constrained by positioning and casting time, but not by inability to get the hammer down hard enough, unless your group is woefully undergeared, mis-specced or badly played. If that's the case, your approach would still be terrible, as that group would have even worse problems with the bosses (which have actual HP pools, as opposed to HP damp patches).
It sounds like you're trying to "solve" a problem that you either heard about third hand, or imagined, I'm afraid. I can see how you might think that; I did so for a while in beta, too, based on bad assumptions. However, a little more observation of what actually does happen soon put paid to that.
Those 2 slots can buy either 2% miti for some end bosses or +70damage on everything or +140 on every crit. Say I'm only critting 1 in 3 (we'll just ignore concentration and mastery and throw in a little bad luck), That comes out to 93.3 per hit. lets say that it is a boss with 24% miti. So I'm losing 2% total Damage. My base damage would have to be 4665 per attack for that 2% to even mitigate more than power adds. So if you are only aimed shotting the boss and doing nothing else 2% more Arpen is better for that one fight and worse in everything you do getting to that fight. If you don't have concentration... or mastery.....
So that's what you mean by "sub-boss". Well, you're painting yourself even further into a corner, given that the optimal approach is to ignore the adds and burst the boss down. Again, the trash isn't even slightly relevant.
Oh, and trash does (as you so poetically put it) go "poof" with a good group. Try getting invited to some.
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You can argue with other people for a bit now. I don't think you're being deliberately rude or unpleasant, and I am sorry if this feels at all bad-tempered, but you're just wrong. PvE DPS 101 in this game is "cap your ArPen". If you don't, then ur doin it rong(tm). Search around these forums for some of the old theorycrafting where people hashed this stuff out way back. It will make sense, eventually, I promise.
Even in MC, I spend more time on boss 1 and 2, and if you wish to do 3/3, then I think it's optimal to have 24% arpen for that since the interupts from CW/GWF doesn't work anymore.
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If you go for PVE then you can go for high WIS so you will have ~40% base crit rate, if you go for PVP then CON is better coz you need to be alive to do dmg. And yes Correcting Aim work fine and is must.
You can get 2x2 parts from both sets and to have it bonuses till you find full set. (some pll in the end game still use 2x2 parts)
Where do you get 1750 power from? And 70 damage? R7 Radiants give 185 power, slotting two of them gives 370 power and that will give you a whopping 18,5 more in base damage....