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pufy2010pufy2010 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 301 Arc User
Hello .

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Here is a small Info/Comparisons of The new tenacity Set's TIER 3 ( for pvp ( rogue/Trickster rogue) And my personal fealings/opinions regarding this .
I wont mention the t1/t2 armors ( except Skulker ,since the core of t3)









Skulker ( I repeat..beeing the Core of t3 must be mentioned , even if t2)

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Main Status : ARP/HP


Skulker basic status : HP/AC/Critical/Armor Penetration/Defense/Life steal ( 6status ) No Tenacity
Set effects : Life steal + 25 % Stealth Metter.


It have all the status that it needs..very balanced (arp+HP and stealth metter mainly).








Brutal (erased)

Main Status : ARP/HP



Brutal Skulker basic status : HP/AC/Critical/Armor Penetration/Defense/Life steal/Tenacity ( 7 status With Tenancity On)

Set effects : Crit + 30% stealth Metter



The Best Tenacity Skulker Version.
Identical Status But at higher rate (arp+HP mainly + CRIT EFFECT and stealth metter as set effect).

Sadly ...ERASED.


I will quote Shakira's/Rihana song : Can't remember to forget you. (and il never will..Brutal was perfect )












Now the Profound Armor wich give us 3 ways :


1: Executioner
2: Scoundrel
3: Saboteur













Executioner

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Main Status : Power/recovery



Profound armor of Executioner: Basic Status : AC/Power/Crit/Recovery/Defense/Life steal/tenacity ( 7 status)
Set effects : Crit + 30 % stealth metter



Profound armor of Executioner good sides : tenacity /awesome set effect (crit/Stealth metter)

Profound armor of Executioner Bad sides : original HP/ARP replaced with Power/Recovery.



Power is rather useless for a rogue (Power is good for glass cannon style ( wich dosent work usualy)

Recovery u can easy gain from weps/enchants (thats why recovery is marked with red,,because it replaces ARP (or HP).

ARP/HP is the bestCombination because allows you to make Crit/ARP/recovery beyond 2300+ (balanced)

Losing ARP/Hp in favour of Power/Recovery not to apealing













Scoundrel

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Main Status : ARP/Deflect



Profound armor of Scoundrel good sides : It have ARP and Deflect ( may work for deflect builds) + increased set effect (Crit/stealth metter)
Profound armor of Scoundrel Bad sides : Lower status then Skulker/ No HP.













Saboteur


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Main Status : Defense

Set effects :crit/stealth metter
Profound Saboteur Good sides : Defense.
Profound Saboteur bad sides : No HP/NO Deflect/No ARP/ ( TR not supozed to tank , and a tank without hp and deflect ?? Interesting )













That's all....mostly this table of content was to compare the tier3 Profound Versions.
And if is posibile to make a version that have both
ARP+Hp would be awesome ( Brutal Skulker)



Post Subject to change (if dev's change status etc )











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Comments

  • jwsteven911jwsteven911 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I guess for TR, HP/Arp stats are important
  • pufy2010pufy2010 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Actualy it is .
    it gives you the flexibility to have good HP and to Balance all Status.

    Enough ARP gives you chance to stack for exemple Recovery enchants.
    For a rezult of 2300 + crit/Recovery/Arp.


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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    pufy2010 wrote: »
    Actualy it is .
    it gives you the flexibility to have good HP and to Balance all Status.

    Enough ARP gives you chance to stack for exemple Recovery enchants.
    For a rezult of 2400 + crit/Recovery/Arp.



    In Game : Alizea Angelo@pufy2010

    oh well we will just continue to use our old but gold skulker.... im more concerned about those accessories, really bad with too many offensive slots. ****s that we probably are forced to use to increase tenacity losing even more hp
  • pufy2010pufy2010 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    rayrdan wrote: »
    oh well we will just continue to use our old but gold skulker.... im more concerned about those accessories, really bad with too many offensive slots. ****s that we probably are forced to use to increase tenacity losing even more hp

    Old Good Skulker have no tenacity ,so i suggest using tenacity armor.

    Dont wory about the accesorys max they give u is 1 % -1,5% , Wep similar tenacity .
    So you could skip them for *non Tenacity* accesoryes.


    max tenacity u can get is 22 %. for now.


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  • xyntrynz1axyntrynz1a Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 243 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    Do you have screen shots of any of this?

    I am red green color blind and unfortunately I am having a serious issue reading this post
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  • pufy2010pufy2010 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Oh dear.... well just click your left mouse (left click) HOLD it..and draw all the text ..it will high Light to Blue/White
    Did this colour system to be easily understood (green is go go/red is no no).

    Im sory for ur handicap :S





    In Game : Alizea Angelo@pufy2010 (It's done,over, ended,finnito,love u :))
  • pers3phonepers3phone Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    pufy2010 wrote: »
    if more complains about Green/Red will arive (pc side/ Eye side ) i will change the colours.[/COLOR]
    In Game : Alizea Angelo@pufy2010 (sex)

    I have slight issues deciphering a certain set of letters that are "hidden" :P Could you please make them more visible?

    A concerned reader.
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Yup,

    Another case of the T2.5 gear being absolute <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>!

    Went on the PTR, looks like youll just have to use the "Battle Field Skulkers Grim" Set and have all the same stat layout as before but just stick with the T2 setup since its BIS with HP/Crit/ARP like everyone wants...

    Its really sad they did this!
  • pufy2010pufy2010 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Persi ,now ur trolling me :D, nab !!but still wuv u QQ



    Xyntry Put your left cursor (left mouse click) Hold it..and draw on all text..it will High Light all the text to White/blue.


    And Persi,yes It's SEX : Serious Experiments. (concerned huh ? Dont be , u know me ,theres no trap :D)



    In Game : Alizea Angelo@pufy2010 (It's done,over, ended,finnito,love u :))
  • pufy2010pufy2010 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    ayroux wrote: »
    Yup,

    Another case of the T2.5 gear being absolute <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>!

    Went on the PTR, looks like youll just have to use the "Battle Field Skulkers Grim" Set and have all the same stat layout as before but just stick with the T2 setup since its BIS with HP/Crit/ARP like everyone wants...



    Its really sad they did this!



    Dont get Decived ,Grim is not that good if you ask me..
    Just a lower version of Skulker + the stealth metter is 25 % only. (but maybe for HP tr's is best option)

    I will go Scoundrel since is the most relevant (Yes il lose the HP effect..but Il have my arp + slighty more skulker status + 30% stealth metter).

    Executioner is a valid way (cannon glass with fast recovery) but not for me.

    Saboteur: definetly wont work for me. Defensive bazed armor with no deflect and no hp..
    .But again maybe will match some Tr' player style'...dunno


    In Game : Alizea Angelo@pufy2010 (It's done,over, ended,finnito,love u :))
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    pufy2010 wrote: »
    Dont get Decived ,Grim is not that good if you ask me..
    Just a lower version of Skulker + the stealth metter is 25 % only. (but maybe for HP tr's is best option)

    I will go Scoundrel since is the most relevant (Yes il lose the HP effect..but Il have my arp + slighty more skulker status + 30% stealth metter).

    Executioner is a valid way (cannon glass with fast recovery) but not for me.

    Saboteur: definetly wont work for me. Defensive bazed armor with no deflect and no hp..
    .But again maybe will match some Tr' player style'...dunno
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    In Game : Alizea Angelo@pufy2010 (sex)

    I think it remains to be seen honestly and the only reason the T2.5 MIGHT be able to compete is for perma builds that want the extra stealth meter, because all the other classes the bonus doesnt help that much for the massive loss in stats. With regen nerf, the stats are comparable but since 5% more stealth meter it MAY make up for some builds, id still probably rather bank on 2k Hp more than a few more stats though...
  • xyntrynz1axyntrynz1a Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 243 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    I read through it. My head hurts now
    :)

    To me, it sounds like our current gear will still be the best due to the HP and it will continue to come down to how you play.

    Does anyone know for sure how the new armor will be obtained?

    I am building a cache if Grym coins and keep maxing my glory because there is nothing else I need to buy
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  • pufy2010pufy2010 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    xyntrynz1a wrote: »
    I read through it. My head hurts now
    :)

    To me, it sounds like our current gear will still be the best due to the HP and it will continue to come down to how you play.

    Does anyone know for sure how the new armor will be obtained?

    I am building a cache if Grym coins and keep maxing my glory because there is nothing else I need to buy



    You have missed something..as the previous mate that posted here.

    Our current gear : assuming is SKulker : have 0 tenacity , so using it wont be that effective no more.

    U must chooze from the new ones , and try find the best gear set that fits your playing style (they have tenacity)...



    And the NEW gear was *released* this thursday on Preview ( test server).
    Will be on Retail ( original server) when new Module comes , till then..hopefuly they gona twick it to Brutal or etc.

    Atm the new set's are still viabile but missing Hp+ combinations.


    And related to grym coin's it seems they are useless regarding T3.
    To trade t3 or t2.5 as u guys call it , you need glory + Seal of triumph *coin*.


    In Game : Alizea Angelo@pufy2010 (It's done,over, ended,finnito,love u :))
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Ouch these posts are so poorly formated with their colors that they could hold the secrets of the universe and eternal youth and I don't know if I could force myself to read them. Please edit them and make them legible.
  • pufy2010pufy2010 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    charononus wrote: »
    Ouch these posts are so poorly formated with their colors that they could hold the secrets of the universe and eternal youth and I don't know if I could force myself to read them. Please edit them and make them legible.


    Ohh , You cant *force thy self* to Create or Read a guide with helpfull info/hints.
    But you can *force thy self* to reply and troll whatever u can find (like the colour system).

    Maybe the secrets of the universe and eternal youth not meant to be for you, so next time If you have to offer some feadbacks ,try it on a different note.


    typical.



    In Game : Alizea Angelo@pufy2010 (It's done,over, ended,finnito,love u :))
  • xyntrynz1axyntrynz1a Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 243 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    I didn't miss anything.
    Tenacity doesn't affect PVE

    So the new gear and module will only affect PvP which is only part of the game.

    I asked if you knew how the gear will be obtained which you seemed to have answered.
    I currently have 25,000 glory

    Your posts would be much more helpful if you could add screenshots of the actual gear like Toadesfaella did in his post.
    And/or list the exact stats per piece.
    Scoundrel Trickster Rogue
    Leaving dead question marks everywhere
  • pufy2010pufy2010 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    xyntrynz1a wrote: »
    I didn't miss anything.
    Tenacity doesn't affect PVE

    So the new gear and module will only affect PvP which is only part of the game.

    I asked if you knew how the gear will be obtained which you seemed to have answered.
    I currently have 25,000 glory

    Your posts would be much more helpful if you could add screenshots of the actual gear like Toadesfaella did in his post.
    And/or list the exact stats per piece.


    ScreenShots added at request :)

    In Game : Alizea Angelo@pufy2010 (It's done,over, ended,finnito,love u :))
  • ratharimratharim Member Posts: 65
    edited February 2014
    I have two questions to the people playing on the preview server:
    1) If you have T1 armor set and want to get T2 set you have to:
    a) Buy T2 pieces for full glory price
    b) Have some barter option to turn in old T1 piece and pay only part of full glory price?
    2) Are there any PvE sets for TRs with + stealth meter effect?
    Ratharel - stealthy backstabber from the Myth Drannor
  • pufy2010pufy2010 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    ratharim wrote: »
    I have two questions to the people playing on the preview server:
    1) If you have T1 armor set and want to get T2 set you have to:
    a) Buy T2 pieces for full glory price
    b) Have some barter option to turn in old T1 piece and pay only part of full glory price?
    2) Are there any PvE sets for TRs with + stealth meter effect?



    1 ) well u can trade your Skulker armor if have..for a Grim armor and rest u need glory+ Seal of triumph.

    2 ) ermm all Pvp armors have stealth metter ( so Scavanger t1/Skulker t2/ and after patch :Scavanger t1/Grim t2/ProFound t3 ..even the t1 Pvp gear (Scavanger) have stealth metter So...Yah those are the sets with stealth metter)



    In Game : Alizea Angelo@pufy2010 (It's done,over, ended,finnito,love u :))
  • tricksterknighttricksterknight Member Posts: 74
    edited February 2014
    rayrdan wrote: »
    oh well we will just continue to use our old but gold skulker.... im more concerned about those accessories, really bad with too many offensive slots. ****s that we probably are forced to use to increase tenacity losing even more hp
    yeah i noticed the no Defensive slot option... But lets assume tenacity is only good to a certain percentage ,,,, (hoping this is the case of course) maybe we wont need to use them.
  • erikiki1erikiki1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 144 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    bye alizeaaaa :((
  • xyntrynz1axyntrynz1a Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 243 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2014
    The screenshots really helped
    Now I could understand the pros and cons you listed

    Thank You
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