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[Suggestion] Regarding Valindra's Tower Loot table
esteena
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1
I have been farming Valindra;s tower, for my off hand, for 3 days now and here are the results:
3 CW off hand
1 TR off hand
1 HR off hand
Total runs done: Over 30 runs.
I understand the idea behind making them BoP and how to encourage people to farm their own things instead of buying them off AH.
But comeon, 30 runs and 90% of drops were blue. I run with PuGs, and it takes a moderate amount of time to reach 1st boss...to get a blue item most of the time which is kind of silly. The blue items aren't even useful, and most of them are crappy belts/necks/rings that you can also get from killing mobs while doing your dailies. So i'm not sure why these items are dropping from a 10.8k+ GS dungeon's boss.
Here is what i suggest:
1- Make the off hands BoE, with a low drop chance.
OR
2- Keep the off hands BoP, with a higher drop chance ( maybe 30~40%) as it seems to be lower than 10% at the moment.
OR
3- Add another mini boss that drops only the off hands, and make the 1st boss only for fragments. That will keep the drop rate balanced on the purples and will increase the chances of getting the desired items.
3 CW off hand
1 TR off hand
1 HR off hand
Total runs done: Over 30 runs.
I understand the idea behind making them BoP and how to encourage people to farm their own things instead of buying them off AH.
But comeon, 30 runs and 90% of drops were blue. I run with PuGs, and it takes a moderate amount of time to reach 1st boss...to get a blue item most of the time which is kind of silly. The blue items aren't even useful, and most of them are crappy belts/necks/rings that you can also get from killing mobs while doing your dailies. So i'm not sure why these items are dropping from a 10.8k+ GS dungeon's boss.
Here is what i suggest:
1- Make the off hands BoE, with a low drop chance.
OR
2- Keep the off hands BoP, with a higher drop chance ( maybe 30~40%) as it seems to be lower than 10% at the moment.
OR
3- Add another mini boss that drops only the off hands, and make the 1st boss only for fragments. That will keep the drop rate balanced on the purples and will increase the chances of getting the desired items.
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That minimal difference is why i'm farming the off hand.
The minimal difference will do much for the build i have in mind. But thanks for your suggestion.
I prefer option (1) out of the three, as this can apply to MC offhands and the VT torso armor too.
It can get rather frustrating getting multiple offhands from other classes while searching for your specific one, which either gets salvaged or sold to NPCs in the end.
Thats true. And since since it is only 1 boss that drops all of purples ( including marks and fragments) getting your desired off hand is very frustrating. Would be great if they atleast split the loot table between the boss and valindra to have higher chances to get fragments/off hands.
That said, it took me 50 runs to get my HR blades in VT. It was exhausting, boring, and incredibly obnoxious. I have barely set foot in the place since then.
Farming malabog weapons is just as painful but with one main difference - MC is FUN. Vt is just a swarm of endless trash that is very tiring to kill 50 times :S
Anyway man, it's all luck. Keep going till you get it.
Everything you need to know about CW:
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?780981-Chem-s-CW-Compendium-Everything-you-need-to-know
Yeah thats right run more VT you saddy HAHAHAHA
@esteena: Sorry couldnt log on yesterday, went to bed after I came back from work :-p
PvP GWF - BizzyBedBug
PvE GF (salvaged)
PvE TR (salvaged)
GWF PvP/CW PvE @ http://www.twitch.tv/bizzyplusplus/
Sadly, the same cannot be said of my GF and her search for the Fomorian shield. Never seen it while playing GF. Gave up after mod 2.
I would suggest another option though, make them BoA. that way if you want to play on CW or GWF in VT/MC that day and the TR off-hand you've wanted for the past month drops at least if you win it, your alt can use it.
Actually good idea. +1 for that!
PvP GWF - BizzyBedBug
PvE GF (salvaged)
PvE TR (salvaged)
GWF PvP/CW PvE @ http://www.twitch.tv/bizzyplusplus/
instead of forcing us to do 50 runs of mindless, easy, trash killing, boring us to tears and generating no income for days at a time, make the loot drop more frequently, but make the dungeon a bit harder. and involve something than 1000 mobs that i already had to kill during my dailies.
Then, maybe get a boss that is not a carbon copy of an existing boss (see throne of idris), and make more difficult than chaining sing on its head and blowing it up, or running in and smashing with a GWF< and have the offhands drop a little more frequently. At least this would
a) make it more skill dependent to get the items
b) alleviate boredom
c) make it more satifying to acquire the item
d) alieviate boredom
e) see B and D
Because what i really want in M2 was a dungeon full of killing mindless, easy trash that happened to be the same mindless, easy trash i killed during my dailies, that drops almost no good loot for me to sell (except the miracle crown and high prophet feet), that i now have to run upwards of 50 times, takes up 3-4 days of my playing time, that is not fun, not interesting, and gives almost no benefits along the way.
Seriously, i hate the place. I got my offhands, the sets i wanted, and I haven't gone back.
And BTW, most of the sets aren't better than the existing sets. How is that DC set Lenny?
Everything you need to know about CW:
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?780981-Chem-s-CW-Compendium-Everything-you-need-to-know
People are mostly farming it for that reason, not for the off hands/chests, because these are BOP and they don't bring money.
Check the AH and see how much dread fragments are there, from what i see they are farming it for the fragments mostly.
However, if the dev's intentions was truly what you said, then it is still kind of silly to make you get blues 90% of the time from a boss. Even MC got a higher drop rate for purples than that.
you mean when you have done 10 ~12 runs and then gave up because you were too lazy to make your own party & someone rolled on the off hand when it dropped and he took it and you got pissed ( you even asked him to make a ticket to make devs send it to you rofl) till i have eventually formed the party(s) for you? yeah i remember.
Well i guess that you're paying the price for maybe 3-4 more weapon damage (lul?) and some lifesteal (you can softcap it already with ancient jewelry). Well, ok, but then you're complaining about something which is at the core of the rewards: small improvements mean a lot more runs/farmings, and resources wasted.
Like i said the chest set is free and is already excellent/BiS. So, well, complaining about the fallen dragon gear is a bit pointless to me, that's your decisions, and the devs already give us great gear easy to get.
small improvements mean alot more runs and farming with 90% drop rate on useless blue items, that i can already attain from sharandar mobs, as a boss drop?
I'm not asking for a 100% purple drop rate, if you read the OP again, you will see that i suggested balancing the drop rates on purple items as they are ridiculously low at the moment. Atleast in MC you could get what you want easier because the loot table was devided evenly on the bosses ( off hands dropping from dragon + malabog himself) not only from 1 boss ( off hands) as in valindra's tower.
Now about the stats, i'm a min-max player so yes + 100 life steal would matter alot to me and same with every point of weapon damage. If you have ever went with number crunching and testings you would know what i mean. Also LS rings aren't useful for me, as i they would ruin my build.
It is not BiS for my build. Not sure why are you even arguing about it. The drop rate on the off hands is lower than any other dungeon ( even lower than MC) and i don't see any reason behind that and so does so many people in this thread.
The point of this thread is a constrictive criticism about the loot table on VT ( drop rate of off hand specifically), not on whether the fallen dragon is good enough or not.