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GWF uncapped target limits and why it is a problem

stoxforum1stoxforum1 Banned Users Posts: 265 Bounty Hunter
edited January 2014 in Bug Reports (PC)
So we have for encounters:
Mighty leap
punishing charge which is also a huge AP builder with more mobs hit
and though it only damages a few, IBS can proc onto unlimited targets

Dailies:
avalanche of steel and the knock from savage advance

So here's why this is a major problem with GWF. With Deep Gash damage bugged, them having a class feature (steel blitz) that adds extra hits, and what appears to be a bug with shadowtouched that it can proc on multiple mobs, the damage adds up fast. Allow me to demonstrate with a screenshot.

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So here we have me with some serious injuries going on doing a total of 9.3k damage with IBS, while steel blitz adds an additional 131,900, deep gash does 109,268, and shadowtouched adds 25,778.
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  • fondlezfondlez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    WTF is up with you and your nerf call thread spam. This must be the 5th such thread on GWFs you have made in a span of days.

    This in particular is not a bug report. You are asking for a fundamental redesign of the entire class in Live Bug Forums.

    How are target caps a bug? Next you will be saying that CW's Oppressive Force is bugged, or TR's Wicked Reminder is bugged, or GF's Villain's Menace is bugged or DC's Divine Searing Light is bugged or who knows what other design is bugged....

    Oh wait, you won't will you. Instead you'll find something else that you don't like about the GWF class and call that a "bug"....
  • stoxforum1stoxforum1 Banned Users Posts: 265 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2014
    I don't know what you're smoking fondlez, this is a legitimate bug and a big one at that. Let me hit these 3 targets with my encounter and proc shadowtouched on all these guys when it should proc on one target I believe. Also Steel blitz is getting "hits" counted without actually hitting anything. And on top of that deep gash is proccing on targets that took no damage. How is this not a bug again?
  • fondlezfondlez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    stoxforum1 wrote: »
    I don't know what you're smoking fondlez, this is a legitimate bug and a big one at that. Let me hit these 3 targets with my encounter and proc shadowtouched on all these guys when it should proc on one target I believe. Also Steel blitz is getting "hits" counted without actually hitting anything. And on top of that deep gash is proccing on targets that took no damage. How is this not a bug again?

    Let me repeat again, since when are target caps a bug?
  • stoxforum1stoxforum1 Banned Users Posts: 265 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2014
    fondlez wrote: »
    Let me repeat again, since when are target caps a bug?

    This isn't about the target caps, but the bonus procs from boons/class features/features from the target caps. They could easily make IBS mark 5 targets instead of infinite, that way you can't do nearly 100 hits of steel blitz from one encounter, or proc deep gash on those 100 mobs, or shadowtouched procs on all.
  • dante123pldante123pl Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 282 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    ur tears are delicious.
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    So you're upset about marking targets, and some of the weakest abilities GWF's have. I'll give you a hint punishing charge and mighty leap are garbage abilities.
  • stoxforum1stoxforum1 Banned Users Posts: 265 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2014
    charononus wrote: »
    So you're upset about marking targets, and some of the weakest abilities GWF's have. I'll give you a hint punishing charge and mighty leap are garbage abilities.

    And here's a tip, look at how they interact with deep gash, steel blitz, and shadowtouched. Not so weak in big pulls. Either way it's extra damage the GWF should not have.
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    stoxforum1 wrote: »
    And here's a tip, look at how they interact with deep gash, steel blitz, and shadowtouched. Not so weak in big pulls. Either way it's extra damage the GWF should not have.
    Sure if you use the nonsense you posted in other threads about how great they are if you use them and hit 90 freaking mobs at once. I like to pull big but you know what I don't think I've had 90 mobs on screen at once. You make up nonsense scenario's because you can't stand that something competes with your cw.
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    lol u know steel blitz ads only some 10% damage why would u want this nerfed?
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    warpet wrote: »
    lol u know steel blitz ads only some 10% damage why would u want this nerfed?

    Because he hates the class because it competes with his cw now. His threads on gwf's are cleverly disguised nerf it naow threads.
  • ranncoreranncore Member, Moderators, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 2,508
    edited January 2014
    charononus wrote: »
    Because he hates the class because it competes with his cw now. His threads on gwf's are cleverly disguised nerf it naow threads.

    They're actually not very cleverly disguised.

    I'll agree that Deep Gash needs some work but this thread needs to be canned. Every class has abilities with uncapped target limits.
  • ambisinisterrambisinisterr Member, Neverwinter Moderator Posts: 10,462 Community Moderator
    edited January 2014
    Okay everybody, let's play nicely. :)

    Myself and the other mods have looked at this thread trying to make heads or tails of the issue presented and the arguments which followed.

    The 'bug' is functioning exactly as the tooltips describe and while they are strong in combination it is extremely situational.
    Whether this is overpowered or not is in the hands of the developers.

    On a different note, I know GWF's are finally strong enough to not be interpret ted as a hindrance in PvE. I understand power reductions is the last thing GWF's want to even consider but please be a bit more objective and a lot less hostile towards feedback. Insults are not necessary and will not be tolerated.
    Remain respectful or don't post. Express your opinion without bashing another's.

    Thanks for letting us know but it's clear this can't be discussed civilly and all that needs to be said about the combination has already been discussed. Thread Closed. :(
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