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Suggestion: Introduce Regeneration gears for Leader/Defender/Controller classes

ianthewizard2012ianthewizard2012 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,142 Arc User
edited December 2013 in PvE Discussion
So far, gears which have decent Regeneration bonuses all go to TR, which is a striker. I'm not sure why the introducer tried so hard to associate Regeneration with a striker class. Maybe he only likes TR.

Please also care about other classes and help them have better Regeneration.
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  • slushpsychoslushpsycho Member Posts: 657 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    That is not true.

    The artifact change has already balanced that out.

    TR set has no regeneration unless you use blue. that is why they get some good regen ring/belt to make it up.

    Samething goes to HR. It is pretty balance in terms of regen and you do have to know regen DR kick in hard after 1000-1200
  • ianthewizard2012ianthewizard2012 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,142 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    slushpsycho wrote: »
    That is not true.

    The artifact change has already balanced that out.

    TR set has no regeneration unless you use blue. that is why they get some good regen ring/belt to make it up.

    Samething goes to HR. It is pretty balance in terms of regen and you do have to know regen DR kick in hard after 1000-1200
    Everyone can get artifacts, while decent Regeneration gears such as Seal of the Executor are TR only.
  • slushpsychoslushpsycho Member Posts: 657 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    ianthewizard2012 wrote: »
    Everyone can get artifacts, while decent gears such as Seal of the Executor are TR only.

    Read my post again.
  • ianthewizard2012ianthewizard2012 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,142 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    slushpsycho wrote: »
    Read my post again.
    Okay, I got it. Not a single TR's armor set provides Regeneration.

    But my wizard's armor set doesn't provide Regeneration, either.
  • midnightfang93midnightfang93 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    ianthewizard2012 wrote: »
    Okay, I got it. Not a single TR's armor set provides Regeneration.

    But my wizard's armor set doesn't provide Regeneration, either.

    Fatebender, High Vizier, Magelord, Archmage. 4 CW sets that provide regeneration on every piece. For non-set epic pieces, you also have: Arcane Overseer's and the Drake/Unicorn seal equipment. Those are 7 "armor sets" that provide a CW regeneration. You also have a lot of main/offhands that provide regeneration as well as the option to use blue equipment to try and gain more regeneration. Don't even try to complain about lack of regeneration for a CW.

    Lets say you equip High Vizier (574 regen), the PvP artifact and lvl it to 29 (213 regen, might be a bit less but going off of lvl 30 stats and very easy to do), any of the +70 regen offhands, any of the multiple +133 regen mainhands, and the +250 regen boon (also very easy). You now have a total of: 574 + 213 + 70 + 133 + 250 = 1240 Regeneration. You can get even more regen by getting the items that all classes can use that add regeneration. What's the problem here? Most people don't need more than 1000 regen since it already heals a decent amount.
  • lylesebastionlylesebastion Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    there is a NPC vendor that sells regen rings that are similar to the ones you are talking about and have the same stats as the 300+ regen item for TR, 40k AD each usable around the 30s i think... i got the rings and necklace for my HR
    There is a TR only item that is 400+ regen but i think they dont drop anymore and are sold in AH for a very high price. The rings i speak of are better, i feel, because the stat is almost the same but VERY much cheaper and VERY accessible
  • chemboy613chemboy613 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Yeah man, seriously. Check out your gear. HV and Fomorians have tons of regen. Also ancient and fomorian weapons have tons of regen to. With artifacts my CW rocks 1800 regen in PvP.
    http://chemboy613.tumblr.com/ - Neverwinter Photoblog

    Everything you need to know about CW:

    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?780981-Chem-s-CW-Compendium-Everything-you-need-to-know
  • ianthewizard2012ianthewizard2012 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,142 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Thanks all. And thanks for the info about the vendor that sells 300+ regeneration rings. I will go to check it.
  • lylesebastionlylesebastion Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    bah, my mistake. she only sells regen rings and belt for TR/HR
  • ianthewizard2012ianthewizard2012 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,142 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Thanks. I just checked and found that CW can buy +266 regen ring from the pegasus seal trader.
  • degraafinationdegraafination Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Seriously? My CW has 1400 regen in PVP and almost 2000 regen in PVE. Check out the High Vizier Set, along with Ancient or FF Weapons.
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  • ianthewizard2012ianthewizard2012 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,142 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    degraafination wrote: »
    Seriously? My CW has 1400 regen in PVP and almost 2000 regen in PVE. Check out the High Vizier Set, along with Ancient or FF Weapons.
    Yeah, my wizard has Ancient set. As for HV and FF, thanks, but no thanks. :)
  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Umm...my CW has 1300 regen. I wasn't even aiming to stack regen.
    RIP Neverwinter 26/06/2014
  • chemboy613chemboy613 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    lol, hillarious, you want more regen but won't go Viz or fomorian? They are amazing sets, man. SW is great too and I wear that in a lot of PvE situations, but one wiz with HV makes huge difference in dungeons and, depending on your bar, is great in PvP too.

    Fomorian is amazing survivability and great for targets too far to get SW buff when there is another HV wiz in party.

    SW is great, but it's ultimately a PvE set. Great for clearing mobs - but only if someone else is wearing HV. the HV buff is still too good.
    http://chemboy613.tumblr.com/ - Neverwinter Photoblog

    Everything you need to know about CW:

    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?780981-Chem-s-CW-Compendium-Everything-you-need-to-know
  • pers3phonepers3phone Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    ianthewizard2012 wrote: »
    Yeah, my wizard has Ancient set. As for HV and FF, thanks, but no thanks. :)

    Well, you asked for Regen gear, right?

    People told you how to get it.

    HV set+boon+epic PvP artifact=1130 Regen or so.

    Why would you go "no thanks" on the best set in the game?
  • ianthewizard2012ianthewizard2012 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,142 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    HV's 4 piece bonus is very self-explanatory. And Fomorian are evil creatures. Thus no FF weapons. :)
  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Well, even without the HV/Fomorian you should be able to get ~500, 210 from a green PvP artifact + 250 from the Dread Ring boon + 110 from a "Youth" belt and maybe some extra depending on your weapon and off hand.
    RIP Neverwinter 26/06/2014
  • ianthewizard2012ianthewizard2012 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,142 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    tang56 wrote: »
    Well, even without the HV/Fomorian you should be able to get ~500, 210 from a green PvP artifact + 250 from the Dread Ring boon + 110 from a "Youth" belt and maybe some extra depending on your weapon and off hand.
    But my wizard doesn't feel like hanging a skull on his neck. And one of Dread Ring campaign's introduction quests involves stealing so unfortunately my wizard can't get any Dread Ring boon.
  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    ianthewizard2012 wrote: »
    But my wizard doesn't feel like hanging a skull on his neck. And one of Dread Ring campaign's introduction quests involves stealing so unfortunately my wizard can't get any Dread Ring boon.

    Hmm, I don't recall any stealing in the intro. I thought it was kill these bad guys to help Celeste, kill these bad guys to help Makos, kill this big dude to get into Dread Ring. I don't think you have to finish all the daily quests either, just the mini dungeon and running the skirmish/non stealing dailies should get you enough scripts and scrolls to progress.

    I thought the Blood Raven Crystal Skull was just a glass ornament with magical powers? Not an actual skull, more like the tourist tat you buy in markets on holiday. You could RP putting it in your robe inner pocket instead of your neck, ie, the artifact in slot 1 is around your neck for quick access while the others are just next to you...can't access them to activate the power, but the stat buffing magic goes through your clothes?
    RIP Neverwinter 26/06/2014
  • ianthewizard2012ianthewizard2012 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,142 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    tang56 wrote: »
    Hmm, I don't recall any stealing in the intro. I thought it was kill these bad guys to help Celeste, kill these bad guys to help Makos, kill this big dude to get into Dread Ring. I don't think you have to finish all the daily quests either, just the mini dungeon and running the skirmish/non stealing dailies should get you enough scripts and scrolls to progress.

    I thought the Blood Raven Crystal Skull was just a glass ornament with magical powers? Not an actual skull, more like the tourist tat you buy in markets on holiday. You could RP putting it in your robe inner pocket instead of your neck, ie, the artifact in slot 1 is around your neck for quick access while the others are just next to you...can't access them to activate the power, but the stat buffing magic goes through your clothes?
    That quest is called Shatter, bestowed by NPC Xuna. Its objective: "Steal Token Shards from Thayans in Quarry (0/5)". And players need Thayan Cipher in order to get boons.

    Thanks for the suggestion. :)
  • skiptisskiptis Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    ianthewizard2012 wrote: »
    Everyone can get artifacts, while decent Regeneration gears such as Seal of the Executor are TR only.

    Seal of the Executioner is crit. It used to have another stat... but that was recovery and not regeneration, afaik. /nitpick
  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    skiptis wrote: »
    Seal of the Executioner is crit. It used to have another stat... but that was recovery and not regeneration, afaik. /nitpick

    Wrong. Used to be regen. Then it nerfed to less regen. Then it got "reworked" to crit.

    You can still get a Ring of preservation in the Pegasus dealer.
    RIP Neverwinter 26/06/2014
  • midnightfang93midnightfang93 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The fact of the matter is regen is everywhere for a control wizard, but you refuse to use it, which isn't something a dev can fix. The raven artifact can EASILY be on of the other 2 slots that don't show on your character and you can change the skin of any armor/jewlery/belt to anything else. Also, for the record, you literally only "need" 1 quest in the dread ring daily, which is the dungeon quests for 5 scrolls (and the weekly 30 scrolls to make it quicker). Every other quest only rewards scripts, which can be obtained from the zone's bounty. Better yet, ignore that single quest and do the others.
  • ianthewizard2012ianthewizard2012 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,142 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    midnightfang93 wrote: »
    Also, for the record, you literally only "need" 1 quest in the dread ring daily, which is the dungeon quests for 5 scrolls (and the weekly 30 scrolls to make it quicker). Every other quest only rewards scripts, which can be obtained from the zone's bounty. Better yet, ignore that single quest and do the others. Refusing to do an entire zone simply because 1 quest has "steal" in its description is just silly and stupid. That is why pers3phone sees you as a troll.
    Shatter is one of introduction quests. Players can't proceed without doing it.
  • pitshadepitshade Member Posts: 5,665 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Archmage set has the same stats as HV just slightly lower ratings. You'll lose about 500 GS with it instead of HV and the set bonus is still really good.
    "We have always been at war with Dread Vault" ~ Little Brother
  • ianthewizard2012ianthewizard2012 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,142 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Thank you. Although doing things like so has disadvantages when there aren't enough RP options, it's glad to build your characters according to their principles/alignments and see them being persistent throughout their adventures. Therefore on the bright side, it can still be fun. :)
  • melodywhrmelodywhr Member Posts: 4,220 Arc User
    edited December 2013
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