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is the PVE content any more varied now-a-days?
nvmbanelings
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yo.
i played NWO during the first two months or so of release. the PVE content was... underwhelming. all the fights were basically exactly the same: the boss is a turret who spams adds and AOEs.
my friend wants to play, but, i warned him about it. i told him i would come back if the PVE became more interesting then the same-old, same-old. i'm guessing, by now, they've fixed the guardian fighter class, correct?
in the same vein, is PvP still the same? back then, rogues and control wizards were basically gods. you'd either get CC'd to death, or, insta-gibbed with daily powers from 60% health.
i'm just wondering if they've made the game better, since then. i want to be optimistic.
i played NWO during the first two months or so of release. the PVE content was... underwhelming. all the fights were basically exactly the same: the boss is a turret who spams adds and AOEs.
my friend wants to play, but, i warned him about it. i told him i would come back if the PVE became more interesting then the same-old, same-old. i'm guessing, by now, they've fixed the guardian fighter class, correct?
in the same vein, is PvP still the same? back then, rogues and control wizards were basically gods. you'd either get CC'd to death, or, insta-gibbed with daily powers from 60% health.
i'm just wondering if they've made the game better, since then. i want to be optimistic.
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on both points or just PVP?
Let's keep one thing straight, though - *EVERY* MMO I've ever played has regular PvE missions that consist of "talk to person A, who sends you to defeat Y numbers of X monsters/get Z number of B items/save C number of captives from enemies/etc". The epic content is both more enjoyable and more tedious, depending upon which type of character you're playing and which particular instance you're in...
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I believe what the OP is more concerned about are boss mechanics and combat. In that respect, it has gotten better, with each expansion.
The old world stuff has had all kinds of fixes to exploits and the like. But the add heavy fights are fairly much unchanged. However, the newer stuff like Sharandar improves on things. The boss fights in Malabogs Castle are less add heavy and more tactically challenging. The mobs are far more diverse with unique powers that require a bit more skill then face mashing your keyboard. Even the weakest trash cant be ignored or they can heal their friends or drain your Action Points. While their tougher friends act as AoE blockers keeping you from getting to the squishy mobs easily.
Shadowmantle seems to be following this trend as well. With a decent mix of powers and attacks that make each encounter just a little bit different.
There is still plenty of room for more improvement. But Cryptic seems willing to try new ideas and listen. For the most part, each new expansion seems to improve on things just a little bit more.
yeah, i was just worried about the boss mechanics because, lets be honest, the release dungeons were underwhelming, mechanics wise, and if you had the optimal party, brain-dead boring at times... or frustrating 'cuz guardian fighters couldn't hold aggro off clerics and it ended up with the cleric spamming pots and running around in circles just TRYING to survive.
that's what i was looking for. as far as i can remember, the boss fights in the original releases were almost mirrors of each other with a unique mechanic here or there, but generally, you either had: a) 4 people killing adds and a rouge solo-killing the boss, or, b) stacking in one spot and knocking mobs off ledges.
it's good to hear that the PvE dungeon content has gotten more creative, however.
does anyone have any information on how PvP changed from the first month or two of release to now?
It's rather "more of the same".
More skins for mounts/companions/bosses, but the AI inside has not been changed/improved. Your companions still can't avoid AOEs, the bosses are still AOE-turrets spammiing their adds, the dungeons are still a succession of corridors with two secondary bosses somewhere and a final boss at the end. As for classes, TR is still the dev-beloved class. They can solo bosses now.
Larger content, but not different.
- bosses still summon adds (lots of them in many cases) and adds+boss paint the area red. A few tweaks to this formula exist, but in essence the same stuff. Not good.
- PvP is kinda lame, aside from the good gameplay and combat. CWs are no gods by any means, but TRs can still be, together with GWFs. PvP has not seen any improvements since at least July, and they add more and more imbalances without any thinking whatsoever.
Wait, who am I kidding?
Boss Fights = abuse a glitch > dead boss with no effort
The quests in NW are all really lame. You just have to read the text on the quest tracker: "Kill 5 Red Wizards". That is all you need to know. The story behind is pointless.
If there would be random monsters, spawned rare mobs, more cool quests that drop from rare mobs you can find maybe once a week in a zone when you are lucky or if there would be open world epic mobs then there would be more to do. Also crafting is a big problem. Most of the times you craft shirts and pants until you are lvl 20. There is 0 motivation behind that. There should be rare crafting receipes dropping from mobs with unique gear to craft, even fluff stuff or appearance gear but at least something that makes crafting a useful time sink.
you're going to get a lot of varied opinions asking such a question on the forums. your best bet is to dive in and give it a go and make up your own mind.
cheers!