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Cage Match! Lesser Soulforged VS Perfect Anything

jeffro9000jeffro9000 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
edited December 2013 in PvE Discussion
The Champ:
Perfect Anything

The Challenger:
Lesser Soulforged: upon death, resurrect with 4320 HP and 720 HP every second for 3 seconds.

Round 1: Lesser Soulforged VS Perfect Bloodtheft
-Lesser Soulforged: 6480 HP per minute
-Perfect Bloodtheft: 2000 HP/damage per minute
Winner: Lesser Soulforged

Round 2: Lesser Soulforged VS Perfect Briartwine
-Lesser Soulforged: 6480 HP per minute
-Perfect Briartwine: reflect 4% of damage back
*Let's say our opponent did 100,000 damage to us, our Perfect Briartwine dealt 4k damage in return
Winner: Lesser Soulforged

Round 3: Lesser Soulforged VS Perfect Elven Battle
-Lesser Soulforged: 6480 HP per minute
-Perfect Elven Battle: 200% reduction to slows and immobile
*Elven battle is bugged (so I am told) and even if it wasn't, it does not affect knock down, back, or prone
Winner: Lesser Soulforged

Round 4: Lesser Soulforged VS Perfect Fireburst
-Lesser Soulforged: 6480 HP per minute
-Perfect Fireburst: On receiving damage 20% chance to release Fireball at attacker that damages all near it once every 60s. Damage is Level based.
Winner: Lesser Soulforged

Round 4: Lesser Soulforged VS Perfect Frostburn
-Lesser Soulforged: 6480 HP per minute
-Perfect Frostburn: On receiving damage 20% chance to deal Frost damage and reduce foes recovery 30% for 4s once every 60s.
Winner: Lesser Soulforged

Round 5: Lesser Soulforged VS Perfect Thunderhead
-Lesser Soulforged: 6480 HP per minute
-Perfect Thunderhead: On receiving a critical strike 40% chance to deal Lightning damage and stun nearby foes once every 60s. Damage is Level based.
Winner: Lesser Soulforged

Round 6: Lesser Soulforged VS Perfect Barkshield
-Lesser Soulforged: 6480 HP per minute
-Perfect Barkshield: Every 8 seconds your armor receives a charge of Bolstered Bark up to a maximum of 3 charges. When you have one charge of Bolstered Bark your armor absorbs 810 damage. When you have two charges of Bolstered Bark your armor absorbs 1620 damage. When you have three charges of Bolstered Bark your armor absorbs 2430 damage. Whenever you take damage one charge of Bolstered Bark is consumed.
*A chance to absorb 2430 damage, or a guaranteed 6480 HP... hmm...
Winner: Lesser Soulforged

Round 7: Lesser Soulforged VS Perfect Negation
-Lesser Soulforged: 6480 HP per minute
-Perfect Negation: On receiving damage 20% chance to increase your damage resistance by 25% for 7s once every 60s
***This requires some explanation. Negation does not give a flat 25% DR as many believe it does. Negation gives you an additional 25% of your DR. Let's say we have 40% DR. 25% of 40 is 10, 10+40=50% DR for 7 seconds every minute. Let's say we took 10,000 damage from our opponent within the 7 second proc. For 7 seconds we resisted an additional 1000 damage more than we would have with no enchant at all.
Winner: Lesser Soulforged

Ladies and gentlemen, your winner by way of 7 knockouts and reigning champion of all armor enchants in Neverwinter, Lesser Soulforged!

*edit

-Soulforged is 90 seconds, not 60 (ty rapssodya).
-Possible rematch with negation. According to dev post here (ty Ladysylvia) negation is a flat % increase.
-Barkshield's stacks are additive (ty ikeepit3hunna). 2430+1620+810=4860 possible damage ignored on a perfect.
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  • ikeepit3hunnaikeepit3hunna Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Bark charges add to eachother so its more than that. But sadly yes soulforge is the only used armor enchant again...
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  • spicenspicen Member Posts: 248 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    Two of the last cases are not so obvious as you made them. Ppl tend to forget that 8seconds isnt a long time for 1 charge on barkshield. Also PNegation is 25% flat DR. It was stated by dev in a bug report thread. Too lazy to look it for you. Maybe I'll come back and edit this post with a link when I'm not feeling lazy.
  • jeffro9000jeffro9000 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    ikeepit3hunna wrote: »
    Bark charges add to eachother so its more than that. But sadly yes soulforge is the only used armor enchant again...

    The tooltip for Barkshield is confusing at best. If the stacks add it would be 2430+1620+810=4860 damage *if* the stacks are not plinked down with at wills. Still less effective than Lesser Soulforged's guaranteed 6480 HP.
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  • jeffro9000jeffro9000 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    spicen wrote: »
    Two of the last cases are not so obvious as you made them. Ppl tend to forget that 8seconds isnt a long time for 1 charge on barkshield. Also PNegation is 25% flat DR. It was stated by dev in a bug report thread. Too lazy to look it for you. Maybe I'll come back and edit this post with a link when I'm not feeling lazy.

    This is good if it is true. Hopefully it is fixed and hopefully Holy Avenger is as well.
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  • ikeepit3hunnaikeepit3hunna Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    jeffro9000 wrote: »
    The tooltip for Barkshield is confusing at best. If the stacks add it would be 2430+1620+810=4860 damage *if* the stacks are not plinked down with at wills. Still less effective than Lesser Soulforged's guaranteed 6480 HP.

    It works diferent then u think. The 3 tics can absorb 3 seconds of dmg. Such as full round of tenes. 8 cos. A daily. Etc. Also it functions like a secondary regen
    U R 2 E Z- SENT IV GWF undefeated 16k GS
    FaceRoller- regen recovery TR (put on the shelf for now) 14k GS
    Supreme CHAOS - IV GF (put on the shelf for now) 16k GS
    White Khalifa- tene/hp/regen CW (retired) 11k GS (tene)
    Death From Above- TANK ranger 16kGS
    (all halfling everything)

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  • rapssodyarapssodya Member Posts: 169 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    Soulforged procs every 1.5 mins btw.
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  • jeffro9000jeffro9000 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    rapssodya wrote: »
    Soulforged procs every 1.5 mins btw.

    Thank you. I keep forgetting the cooldown was increased to 90 seconds.
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  • ladysylvialadysylvia Member Posts: 946 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    If the OP read this thread: How Negation Enchantment work, then he wouldn't make the mistake i did with them.
    ikeepit3hunna wrote: »
    It works diferent then u think. The 3 tics can absorb 3 seconds of dmg. Such as full round of tenes. 8 cos. A daily. Etc. Also it functions like a secondary regen

    Second: Until i read a log about Barkshield solve this, i don't think that's true.
  • jeffro9000jeffro9000 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    ikeepit3hunna wrote: »
    It works diferent then u think. The 3 tics can absorb 3 seconds of dmg. Such as full round of tenes. 8 cos. A daily. Etc. Also it functions like a secondary regen

    I admit I understand this enchant the least. Even so, a lesser soul will absorb a daily/tenes also. If you are killed by a daily, you will just stand back up, instantly regenerating 4k+ hp and another 700+ every second for 3 seconds.
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  • jeffro9000jeffro9000 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    ladysylvia wrote: »
    If the OP read this thread: How Negation Enchantment work, then he wouldn't make the mistake i did with them.



    Second: Until i read a log about Barkshield solve this, i don't think that's true.

    More recent: link

    *edit

    Sorry! Not more recent, maybe this has been fixed. Again, if so, that is good.
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  • mehguy138mehguy138 Member Posts: 1,803 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Lesser soulforged is the only armor enchantment that allows you to counter Shocking Execution/Ice Knife/Icy Rays or whatever burst damage from 100 to 0. It also saves your life in pve with 100% chance.
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  • schweifer1982schweifer1982 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,662 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Shard of Soulforged Enchantment 1 piece 10k on a.broker cheap so buy it :)
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  • kaoswpkaoswp Banned Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 144 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    Hey devs! Good job with the "nerf" of SF XD do you even test what you program????
  • imm0rtalboyimm0rtalboy Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    So does this mean Soulforged Enchantment is the best armor enchantment in Neverwinter I always use barkshield
    well I think this time I will use Soulforged Enchantment to test it in pve
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  • dante123pldante123pl Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 282 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    kaoswp wrote: »
    Hey devs! Good job with the "nerf" of SF XD do you even test what you program????
    they turned it into an <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, you can get killed instantly after it proc + the reason was they couldnt make old 1 proc at 25% always.
  • ladysylvialadysylvia Member Posts: 946 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    imm0rtalboy wrote: »
    So does this mean Soulforged Enchantment is the best armor enchantment in Neverwinter I always use barkshield
    well I think this time I will use Soulforged Enchantment to test it in pve

    Barkshield = potion saver. SF = Life saver.
  • zokirzokir Member Posts: 369 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Soulforged enchantment is amazing right now.
    For PvP, it's not as good for TRs and CWs as it is for other classes. The majority of the times it's used, you just got ganked and died and that process is just repeated in the next 2 seconds. In some instances however, and for GWFs and DCs especially, it actually provides a second chance.
    For PvE, soulforged is amazing. No one should be using anything other than soulforged in PvE right now. Truly a life-saver.
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  • jeffro9000jeffro9000 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    zokir wrote: »
    Soulforged enchantment is amazing right now.
    For PvP, it's not as good for TRs and CWs as it is for other classes. The majority of the times it's used, you just got ganked and died and that process is just repeated in the next 2 seconds. In some instances however, and for GWFs and DCs especially, it actually provides a second chance.
    For PvE, soulforged is amazing. No one should be using anything other than soulforged in PvE right now. Truly a life-saver.

    I was playing with the lesser on my cw yesterday. I am not sure how it actually works, but try this out.

    After you "die" with your soulforged, let go of the mouse and keys so that you are not pressing anything. You will lie on the ground for a second "dead." This can confuse your opponent and they often turn around or begin fighting somebody else. Then move, lol, you stand right up, dodge, bloodraven skull, etc. Still pretty dang good in pvp considering it is a lesser.
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  • gannicsgladiatorgannicsgladiator Member Posts: 413 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    bloodtheft became really useless after this soulforged reworked.
    it is like new soulforged got 3 options in one.
    they should buff bloodtheft, make it lower cooldown to be fair i think.
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  • gannicsgladiatorgannicsgladiator Member Posts: 413 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2013
    ladysylvia wrote: »
    Barkshield = potion saver. SF = Life saver.
    my barkshield is in my bank, not going to sell it since i am not sure if they might nerf soulforged.

    i could do armor swapping, use barkshield and switch when dying to sf, but that is just lame.
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  • lwedarlwedar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 790 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Agree withe how great it is in pve. Seriously try one if you haven't.

    The sad thing is that instead of buffing the other enchantments to make them more desirable, they will just nerf SF to make it less so.

    They could really do some cool things with armor like making a certain type reduce incoming AOE damage by x percent. Or by changing frost armor to reduce damage and cc ability of cold spells by x amount.

    People would then use more of them and you could actually think about which one is more effective for the type of fight you are about to have.
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  • imsmithyimsmithy Member Posts: 1,378 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    imm0rtalboy wrote: »
    So does this mean Soulforged Enchantment is the best armor enchantment in Neverwinter I always use barkshield
    well I think this time I will use Soulforged Enchantment to test it in pve

    Yeah same , I was using barkshield but soulforged new effect is so good , a free rez every 90 seconds and no rez sickness?
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