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rafa2306
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As I'm sitting here doing GG. I'm realizing how bored I am, and that made me sad.
I like the game, and I care about the game, otherwise I wouldn't be here giving my opinion.
I've been playing for months to get those rank 8, tier 3 mounts, companions, vorpal, etc. I have 2 geared toons, one to my satisfaction already.
Now I wanted to try another class, have a 60 DC and a 60 GF and i feel completely and utterly dis-motivated to gear them up. Farm GG for coins will take lots of repeating the same thing, 2 hour event, which i already done countless times. To go straight to T2, i need a very strong party to carry me.
And still, months of doing sharandar and new module with new toons (which i don't think it's a problem if you dis-consider the endless grind for gear and AD)
I already did GG so many times, across TR and CW i must have 600 coins, i have literally 1000 drake seals. I did those legit, earned it with time I took from my life, if I can't gear my other toons with that, I don't have the energy, time and Dolar to do it again.
Oh, there's also HR coming up... If i want to try another perspective on the game, there's another few months of my life. No way.
Please remedy your issues NW, I don't want to move to another game, I want yours more pleasant, but I can't handle the process of undergeared pvp, GG then T2 till get all chests, then farming AD for the enchants over and over again. Then MC, CN, etc. I already suffer though all that, allow me to skip some steps.
I like the game, and I care about the game, otherwise I wouldn't be here giving my opinion.
I've been playing for months to get those rank 8, tier 3 mounts, companions, vorpal, etc. I have 2 geared toons, one to my satisfaction already.
Now I wanted to try another class, have a 60 DC and a 60 GF and i feel completely and utterly dis-motivated to gear them up. Farm GG for coins will take lots of repeating the same thing, 2 hour event, which i already done countless times. To go straight to T2, i need a very strong party to carry me.
And still, months of doing sharandar and new module with new toons (which i don't think it's a problem if you dis-consider the endless grind for gear and AD)
I already did GG so many times, across TR and CW i must have 600 coins, i have literally 1000 drake seals. I did those legit, earned it with time I took from my life, if I can't gear my other toons with that, I don't have the energy, time and Dolar to do it again.
Oh, there's also HR coming up... If i want to try another perspective on the game, there's another few months of my life. No way.
Please remedy your issues NW, I don't want to move to another game, I want yours more pleasant, but I can't handle the process of undergeared pvp, GG then T2 till get all chests, then farming AD for the enchants over and over again. Then MC, CN, etc. I already suffer though all that, allow me to skip some steps.
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No matter the developer, players will always be able to burn through content faster than it can be churned out. The only remedy is for you to change how you go about playing - play for shorter periods of time, set specific goals for each play session, take frequent breaks, and go into each play session knowing that you aren't there to complete everything - just a few tasks you set for yourself ahead of time. Heck, maybe just invoke and check celestial coins for a few days, to give yourself a break...
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but u can skip gg if u dont need the set, on my tr in full blue gear + rank4's i got some 9.3k gs buy t2 weapons and ur set for any t2 with capped arp and decent other stats, as long as you can play your class
and about breaks - all i do is breaks + crafting/invoking/sharanda atm, checking only if we have enough ppl on to make guild DD, games should be fun, this is not, as it is now im staying only because i enjoy playing with my guild
That said, I will make another toon in a while, I am doing exactly what bioshrike said and setting goals for each main each time I play and I took a few days to just invoke (also picked up my shar keys to stockpile for repeat runthroughs of gnar and celandine). After a few days I came back with vigor and am having fun again
Traxus Atheanes GF
Bastiel Atheanes DC
Ellara Atheanes CW
Keira Atheanes TR
Sarasin Atheanes SW
Jerkface McGee HR
-MANTARA- OP
why don't you play thru the quests as the game was intended to progress thru
This will become even more important in Module 2 due to rewards from Invocation being Bound to Account.
OP has done everything else. So, you are talking about T1s at most? Even for non-completionists, doing those takes no time at all, even as a fresh 60 (minor exception for Lair of the Mad Dragon in some cases).
but the problem is you are using multiple characters to help grow the others...hence you are avoiding most of the game content
on the subject of celestial and ardent coins, when sword coast adventures is released, you'll be able to reset the timer on them. and you'll be able to do this from your smartphone.
Ill leave you with a rocky quote.
Rocky Balboa: "Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It is a very mean and nasty place and it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't how hard you're hit; it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward. How much you can take, and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done. Now, if you know what you're worth, then go out and get what you're worth. But you gotta be willing to take the hit, and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you are because of him, or her, or anybody. Cowards do that and that ain't you. You're better than that! "
Fox Stevenson - Sandblast
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Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
- Dylan Thomas
I don't think you fully understand how Invocation works. when you invoke you get 3 kinds of currency
as well as the minor rewards
To suggest that you are is asinine and uneducated.
You replying in kind shows little in understanding his point of view.
10 toons. You miss day 7 for what ever reason....you just lost out on 10 coffers.
The grind is increasing and the only thing that can affect that is money.
Give them enough rope, they will either hang themselves or ease up the grind.
I understand the decison on T2 dungeon drops, but pvp gear is T1 at best =/ that one should be changed back
I think account sharing assets and inventory is long overdue with how the game has progressed so far. It is absolutely needed to make managing multiple characters as easier as possible.
You don't lose all of your rewards for invocation. Most you lose is 6 celestial coins. The ardent coins stick around.
And if you know that you are going to be away for a time, you can always cash out the celestial coins that you do have beforehand.
This calculation is made for those who seriously suggest to go with "salvage_items_bought_with_GC_and_you_can_do_it" path. Indulge me and tell me, how many days you need to play to get 3000 Grym coins? How many runs?
That being said, developers don't want players to get items for their alts that easy (as would be if those coins/seals are BOA). Let me demonstrate fail in this logic. What prevents me to log in to my DC (main toon), get into Dwarf King (13K+Cat+HolyAvenger/Bark... plus DCs can always find a party for DK) and do 3 legit runs (no running, no skipping, we kill them all) in 30 minutes. This can be done if you don't pick 8K people for DK, but other "pro's". And in 3 runs, let's say I win nothing. But on next GG event, there are 3 more runs, and I win 1 item. I can sell/trade that item for other one which I need for my alt. To summarize, I did 0 effort on my alt and still got item that I wanted. My main char equipped my alt. Weren't you trying to prevent exactly that with those bound coins?
Making coins/seals bound to char instead of acc is not good idea, IMO. It forces me to:
a) play with my main char to earn AD to equip alts (I thought making me play my alt was intention, not the opposite)
b) grind with alt like crazy... investing crazy amount of time... again!
c) pay $
*Prices may vary.
to me any items transferring from toon to toon is cheating.....because you don't like to play the game and just want to jump right to end content...that's lazy
Joking aside, kind Sir, while I valuate your opinion, I respectfully disagree.
When you get in so deep in the grind of any game it can muddy up your feelings about it and your experiences thus far.
I discovered that NW isn't a game I want to play as hardcore as I was. I'll still enjoy it casually but I can see it with a fresh set of eyes now.
Yeah...I am feeling the same way. I am about to go and revisit some other games since I don't agree with the path they are going in regards to stating they are F2P. Sure I can play this thing all day every day for nothing. Yet I will never be able to compete with folks that have perfects and r10s. If I were trying to keep up with the jones I would need to spend roughly 1k. Umm no.
Alternatively, change the way you look at the game.
If you're going to visualize the process of making a new character in terms of everything you have to do to get that character from level 1 with scrap for gear to max level fully equipped with all the finest you're going to see it as a huge grind no matter what game you are playing. Scale down your focus, breaking down that image into smaller steps, perhaps with some breaks in between, and the task won't look quite so monumental.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
It probably took me 1-2 months to gear my TR, before BoP, actually. I had to grind for each piece slowly, step by step.
Then gearing CW - not that bad but still took a while, maybe 2 weeks. We ran a lot of T2, but i had some skills and i had bought a tier 1 set with some rank 5s so i could still be functional. I geared up to SW quickly. When i saw how OP HV was, i geared up the CW to that in a few days.
Then i geared DC - i had bought all the ancient weapons and jewlery and cat and accesories before i made her (costing roughly 3M AD). This was right before BoP, so I bought 2 pcs miracle and farmed helm gloves within 7 runs (I got lucky there).
Then gearing GF and GWF wasn't so bad. I am in a good guild, we ran 3 DDs every DD event, we almost never failed, and since i can play i wasn't a burden needing to be carried. I got their gear in about a week, each.
So ultimately it's not _THAT_ bad, you just need to get in a good guild full of people that can play well _and_ are nice.
I can't stress how important a good guild is in this game - however, they are hard to find.
That said, I could grow my guild a little, but i really do make people interview before they join. I want this to be a place you'd love to play.
Everything you need to know about CW:
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?780981-Chem-s-CW-Compendium-Everything-you-need-to-know
Notice how you mentioned before bop? Yeah...gearing a toon in just gear has slowed to a crawl.
Add in the cost of enchants, mounts, companions...card reader is right this way.