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After AP nerf, any reason to play Renegade for PVE
pointsman
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So after the impending AP nerf to EF, is there really any reason to play Renegade for PVE purposes? Seems like the only viable path remaining now is Thaum.
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I don't understand why the EF balance would have any bearing on the Renegade path. EF's ability to generate additional AP per target pulled was universal regardless of your feat selection. Your playstyle shouldn't be significantly impacted unless you were dependent on Daily spam.
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As a renegade right now, I hardly ever have EF on tab in dungeon runs, I find myself building AP fast enough. There will be situations where I have EF on tab, but those situations applies even if I'm Thauma, such as being the only CW in some T2 dungeons where knocking mobs off makes the run faster, or gathering mobs together easier for the rest of the melee party. So this AP nerf is going to slow down certain runs, but overall, I don't think it's going to be a big problem.
Have the gear and skills, but lack the friends to play with? Come and apply for Essence of Aggression. We have been here and strong since beta. (Immature, rude, and arrogant people will not be accepted)
It takes u 5min of elementray school math to figure out renegade isnt good....
Even in a singletarget fight renegade is worse...
Damage on single target is pretty much the same renegade vs thaum (thaum is higher if you use chilling presence/eots).
aoe: renegade is the same as thaum when your chilling cloud hits 2 targets. (thaum does more if you hit more than 2).
Thaum benefits from being able to do a more debuffing due to elemental empowerment.
Renegade is not shackled down by conduit of ice, so can do more burst damage(full burst)/fast clearing with chillstrike and quick HV debuff. But has an RnG capstone, which is hard to judge its effectiveness.
Nightmare wizardry vs Assailing force. I judge these are both the same, Assailing force is limited to only to conduit effected target, whereas nightmare wizardry can be spread over larger distances from other encounters/dailies and does not rely on using Conduit of Ice. However some classes may already be working to get combat advantage. Both have their pros and cons.
Sure you can use nightmare wizardry as thaum but you lose out on 5% constant extra damage, and transcendence mastery.
In the end its damage vs flexibility.
I'm going to be respeccing to thaum, because I like to change the flavor. Hope this clears some things up.
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unfortunately 'elementary' school doesn't teach you which spec is better for pvp
Have the gear and skills, but lack the friends to play with? Come and apply for Essence of Aggression. We have been here and strong since beta. (Immature, rude, and arrogant people will not be accepted)
Well, thaum sucks for pvp. Regenade is superior in that aspect, and pve content is so simple that you dont really need to max out on damage to beat things easily.
How so? x10
I dont wanna crush ur dreams but ur totaly wrong!
It does, since u should learn to read at elementary school and do simple math!
Now the best of it, if u have the ability to read, try it on tooltips, collect numbers and ask urself which one will be better.
Instead of just talking to people in a condescending manner, why don't you do some actual testing in both spec at some high level pvp, and come back with some results to educate the rest of us why renegade isn't good.
By high level, I mean some premades against teams that have senti GWFs, 2 or more GFs, and some good TRs.
Have the gear and skills, but lack the friends to play with? Come and apply for Essence of Aggression. We have been here and strong since beta. (Immature, rude, and arrogant people will not be accepted)
If you are going to admonish someone for a perceived lack of reading fluency you should first endeavor to improve your own grammar, syntax and spelling.
Just sayin'