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Module 2 Changes to MC loot tables
inthefade462
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With the introduction of artifacts in module 2 it seems like an excellent time to rebalance the loot tables in MC. Of course the biggest complaint is the 34 silver blue item drops and that should be addressed but i'm more concerned with the lack of motivation to do 3/3 MC runs. Their currently no reason to run it outside of DD and very little reason to run it inside of DD as well, other than seals from the chest. This leaves certain classes (DC, GWF) in a bad spot as their fabled OH drops from the dragon, while all other classes OH drops from either 1st or 2nd boss. Considering that Hunter Rangers will need an OH to drop and currently Malabog himself only drops TR OH, it's logical that HR OH drop will be added to Malabogs loot table.
In addition, it seems that the new artifact that will drop from MC will drop from malabog himself as well.
I know the wiki states that OHs can drop from any boss but those are 1 in a million chances. I'm talking about their standard loot table, which looks something like this (% are estimates based on trending runs since module 1 released):
Krol (1st boss) super easy fight
40% chance to drop blue redcap item (34 silver)
40% chance to drop random blue item (34 silver)
10% chance to drop Fabled Formorian CW OH
10% chance to drop Fabled Formorian GF OH
Malabog (2nd boss) super easy fight
35% chance to drop blue redcap item (34 silver)
40% chance to drop random blue item (34 silver)
10% chance to drop Formorian totemist DC MH weapon (10k RAD)
10% chance to drop Fabled Formorian TR OH
5% chance to drop Weapon Fragment (and they have their own loot table, with the Riser being the rarest and blade being the most common)
Fulminorax (3rd boss) 2nd hardest fight in the game (2nd to Epic DV last boss)
40% chance to drop blue redcap item (34 silver)
40% chance to drop random blue item (34 silver)
10% chance to drop GWF OH
10% chance to drop DC OH
As you can see there's really no reason to do 3/3 MC runs, unless you happen to be a DC or a GWF needing their OH, which isn't enough incentive for most players to do 3/3.
If you now add both the HR OH (10% like the rest of the OHs) and the green Artifact coming in Module 2 (perhaps 5% like the fragments) to Malabog's drop table, it will, in a way, address the issue of too many blue drops in MC, atleast from Malabog himself, but it will even further reduce the likelihood of players in general running 3/3 MC.
I have a character of each class. my TR, GF, and CW have had their Fabled Formorian weapon sets for between 1-2 months now. My DC has her MH weapon built and my GWF is still waiting on another riser drop. Neither of them have their OH, despite the fact that 3/3 MC is the only thing I do nowadays when I log on (well, 25% of my time is spent running 3/3, the other 75% is spent trying to find a group for it).
I believe the simplest way to address this issue would be to have at least the artifact drop from Fulminorax. This would give an incentive for all players to run 3/3 MC. The HR OH should drop from Malabog considering how many of them their will be when the flood gates open and the drizzt clone army is unleashed.
In addition, it seems that the new artifact that will drop from MC will drop from malabog himself as well.
I know the wiki states that OHs can drop from any boss but those are 1 in a million chances. I'm talking about their standard loot table, which looks something like this (% are estimates based on trending runs since module 1 released):
Krol (1st boss) super easy fight
40% chance to drop blue redcap item (34 silver)
40% chance to drop random blue item (34 silver)
10% chance to drop Fabled Formorian CW OH
10% chance to drop Fabled Formorian GF OH
Malabog (2nd boss) super easy fight
35% chance to drop blue redcap item (34 silver)
40% chance to drop random blue item (34 silver)
10% chance to drop Formorian totemist DC MH weapon (10k RAD)
10% chance to drop Fabled Formorian TR OH
5% chance to drop Weapon Fragment (and they have their own loot table, with the Riser being the rarest and blade being the most common)
Fulminorax (3rd boss) 2nd hardest fight in the game (2nd to Epic DV last boss)
40% chance to drop blue redcap item (34 silver)
40% chance to drop random blue item (34 silver)
10% chance to drop GWF OH
10% chance to drop DC OH
As you can see there's really no reason to do 3/3 MC runs, unless you happen to be a DC or a GWF needing their OH, which isn't enough incentive for most players to do 3/3.
If you now add both the HR OH (10% like the rest of the OHs) and the green Artifact coming in Module 2 (perhaps 5% like the fragments) to Malabog's drop table, it will, in a way, address the issue of too many blue drops in MC, atleast from Malabog himself, but it will even further reduce the likelihood of players in general running 3/3 MC.
I have a character of each class. my TR, GF, and CW have had their Fabled Formorian weapon sets for between 1-2 months now. My DC has her MH weapon built and my GWF is still waiting on another riser drop. Neither of them have their OH, despite the fact that 3/3 MC is the only thing I do nowadays when I log on (well, 25% of my time is spent running 3/3, the other 75% is spent trying to find a group for it).
I believe the simplest way to address this issue would be to have at least the artifact drop from Fulminorax. This would give an incentive for all players to run 3/3 MC. The HR OH should drop from Malabog considering how many of them their will be when the flood gates open and the drizzt clone army is unleashed.
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Also it has been strange to see that bosses, not only have the lack of epic drops, but dosent drop AD, enchants, proffesion assets, nothing really. Unfortunately it looks like Shadowmantle wont be much different from Feywild loot wise. Still blues from bosses, and only seals. This expansion i really hoped they would listen to their players, since this game is still at beta, they can say how many times they want its not, its released, but if it is, you should not change instances, fights and bosses every week.
Its too bad, because they have a great game in their hands, unfortunately the people in charge are not interessted in increasing their player base, but increasing the amount of ZEN their current player base buys.
and I just got the riser drop on my GWF, so that makes 3 risers and I still haven't gotten OH on my gwf or DC. (i've seen the DC OH drop 3 times but was never on my DC, and seen GWF twice but again, never while i'm on my gwf)
The dragon set has more total stats I think. Although it did sacrifice some power. The thayan set has higher stats than CN and MC though and doesnt need to be crafted I don't think. BoP though.
looks like they've been changed. When they first rolled out to preview they had less weapon damage. Now the Fallen Dragon weapons (the ones you have to craft) have the same damage as MC, and a total of 10 higher stats, though the stat distribution is worse. The weapons that drop in Valindra's Tower are worse damage than MC but same stats, again though different stat distribution.