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TR exploit in PVP?
pointsman
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So in a recent PVP match, I was on one of the towers in the Hotenow Domination arena and a TR mysteriously appeared on the top of the tower, not from the bridge above, but from the floor beneath! How is this even possible? This must be some sort of exploit. If this is actually a power that TRs have, then that is just ridiculous.
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what's next ? a post QQ'ing that GF's seem to block shots without taking damage ?
From my experience, getting to you on the top of the pillar is right about max range. and as said above, it's not like teleport on shift, it's an encounter. Basically, you being disgruntled about deft strike is about the same as when I play my GWF and were to complain about a CW hitting me from range. Seems like you feel as if the only justified way to get to you is up, around and down onto the pillar...would it bother you if a CW CC'd you from down below or should they do the run around game, as well?
i mean they dont just "stealth" like hide in shadows, they actually become invisible, right in front of your eyes. they have moves that are truer "teleports" than CW dodge move. they summon giant knives from the sky, or from the ground. and what exactly is impossible to catch?
Knife from the sky? Seems like CW's love delivering an ice knife to my dome, so....:)
yea but like, you see them form handsigns and hear the little magic "ding" right before a giant ice knife falls from the sky. the cw is forming it out from the moisture in the air.
a TR doing shocking execution just jumps up in the air, and then a giant blue knife falls from the sky. whats up with that?
and i'm not complaining here, i love both my tr and my cw, just something thats in the back of my mind. Tr feels like a mage/thief multiclass to me.
It's not really about winning or losing a particular battle. It's about the particular abilities themselves. Should TR's, which is not a class based in arcane mastery or magic, really be able to teleport even more effectively than a CW, which is a class that is based in such things?
If I were to propose that the CW's shield should be able to block just as effectively, if not better, than a GF's shield, you'd say that it is ridiculous, and rightly so. A CW is not a GF and shouldn't be able to block more effectively than one.
I see posts here all the time complaining that CW's do "too much" damage, that they ought to be more focused on "control" as the class name suggests. And to an extent these complaints have some validity, because there *are* classes that have as a focus, actual damage-dealing, e.g., GWFs and TRs. (Although it is also true that a dead beastie is pretty well effectively "controlled".)
I suppose it goes into what the class suggests that its players' abilities ought to be. CW's shouldn't be as tanky as GFs, and TR's shouldn't be as "teleport-y" as CW's.
Anyhow, I simply thought it was weird that a TR should have the ability to teleport all the way to the top of a ledge, because the class does not suggest its players have magical abilities, instead that its players use stealth and trickery to accomplish tasks. I can see something like a TR quickly scaling a vertical column, but not instantly teleporting up there.
I'm not trying to insult you but I feel you have a shallow view of a TR's abilities. They do not teleport more effectively, they have 2 options...deft and lurkers, one of those is a daily. You make it sound as if they have the same or better abilities as a CW, they don't. They have dif abilities. They don't CC like a C dub...they don't do a lot of things like a CW. They are different classes.
If they scale a wall to get you or a guardian jumps and uses lunging strike to smash your face, what's the difference? You have to adapt to what you re dealing with, whether you like those scenarios or not, they are a reality just as your abilities are frustrating to other classes. Adapt and overcome bro. Your comfort zone may be outside of PvP so if you continue to PvP, your opponents may continue to deliver packages you don't enjoy receiving.
ETA: they have a few more options to get to you:)
It's not just you. I do this all the time on my TR if the an opposition CW likes the pillar a lot. Swap out impact shot for Deft Strike. Similarly, TR's do it to me when I play CW.
The trickster rogue is actually able to blend in with shadows. Impossible to Catch is them using a shadow weave to make things slide off of them. The deft strike is them actually stepping into their own shadow and using it to move to your shadow to hit you from behind. The knives you see is temporarily solidified shadow that is doing a mass impact.
This is the main idea behind how they do what they do and is part of why they even have 'Shadow Strike' as an ability, to refill their stealth. That stealth is the control of the shadows and they can only do it for so long.