test content
Logo
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc
Paragon paths in PVP and game balance
kazgar99
Member Posts: 21 Arc User
Devs think clerics arent survivable enough at the moment according to the new paragon paths blog post? So the tankiest class in the game (especially in tandem) - clerics becomes tankier? Rogues arent infiltration enough? My perma rogue goes 27-0 in a game and is barely ever seen to even be struck, I think rogues have got stealth and infiltration down just fine without needing more! Do the devs even play pvp to have a clue?
If you want to add survivability then give CWs some because thats a class completely lacking in it (why do you think everyone focuses cw first), but atm paragon paths wont help anything in pvp, can the devs please focus on adding new pvp content, more maps, more tactical based maps, 1 vs 1 , 2 vs 2 and 5 vs 5 tournament and league options, guild vs guild pvp options. This is what people need, not more skills that will make game balance even harder. Also adding more pvp orientated rewards would be good, adding something you can grind towards would be nice, something useful like enchants.
The potential with pvp here is good but the devs are consistently not realising that potential and its getting very frustrating each new update im hopeful and that hope is dashed. Please please please focus on pvp, most of your Pay to win players thus the people who pay your wages are pvpers so surely catering to that makes sense business wise and game wise.
If you want to add survivability then give CWs some because thats a class completely lacking in it (why do you think everyone focuses cw first), but atm paragon paths wont help anything in pvp, can the devs please focus on adding new pvp content, more maps, more tactical based maps, 1 vs 1 , 2 vs 2 and 5 vs 5 tournament and league options, guild vs guild pvp options. This is what people need, not more skills that will make game balance even harder. Also adding more pvp orientated rewards would be good, adding something you can grind towards would be nice, something useful like enchants.
The potential with pvp here is good but the devs are consistently not realising that potential and its getting very frustrating each new update im hopeful and that hope is dashed. Please please please focus on pvp, most of your Pay to win players thus the people who pay your wages are pvpers so surely catering to that makes sense business wise and game wise.
Post edited by kazgar99 on
0
Comments
As of today, we can use repel, shield and other survivability effects and slide arround 3 times without damage, and eventually die.
Or we can do damage and die. There is no balance.
l2p issue? This is nothing to do with learning to play its about how classes are at the moment. People target CW first because they have no way to get out of cc once it begins, every other class does. I'm guessing you dont play top end premades or against good people over and over, CW die with ease, I target them first on my rogue because they have no defence against me unless they are really skilled and excellent timing and eventually they will die anyway. If you think CW are hard to kill compared to any other class the l2p issue is with you. Im just stating simple facts and at the moment its a simple fact that CW are the easiest class to kill, they are also the best 1 vs 1 class played well but that means little in the current pvp setup as its not about 1 vs 1s.
Please tell me the class you think is easier to kill than a CW?
Thats the tradeoff, high damage but squishy.
Also, with exault, CWs will be god-mode how about that for a change... 10 seconds of being immune to damage...
The immunity part lasts 2 seconds. The defense and damage buffs, however, last 10.
Contagion - Cleric
Testament - Wizard
Pestilence - Ranger
Dominion - Paladin
NIGHTSWATCH
New DC skill.
Now I've seen it all.
Top end games, a CW can be beast. Depends entirely on the player. Thus the learn to play comment. I've seen killer rogues, I've seen killer CW. Personally, I think the one thrown under the bus most often is DC. They heal, which keeps everyone else up, so primary target is DC and CW. Both for their own reason.
The problem is perception plays a lot into this.. any class is 'squishy' when you have 4 players targetting it.
Tell that to my GWF with the new artifacts and soulforged on preview... I fight 2-3 while defending a point... and win, perma stealths in whisperknife tickle, they are slower and i got the lantern and unlimited gap closer now
Also thanks for the sincerity about CWs. It's interesting to see how other TRs insist the CWs are doing so well survivability wise, well of course the lion never wants the gazelle to grow pointy teeth and to be able to fight back
Also I agree that introduction of more variables (artifacts, new class, new paragon/skills/feats/powers etc.) in an already extremely imbalanced environment can only deepen the issues.
It's not fair, balanced, neither proportional tradeoff. We are unreasonably squishy, compared to other classes. For example, and you well aware of it, bro, rogues do way more burst damage with standart LS+IS, while still remaining significantly more durable with stealth, ITC and deflect chance/severity for free (not taking gear into account atm). Same goes for GFs - i believe, almost the same damage output in spikes (less consistent, though), comparable CC potential, sick survability in comparision.
I'm excited to see what's going to change with this "exaltation" thingy, or whatever it's called.
talking about this kind of posts: I love how ppl with little to no understanding of wizard mechanics or high-end pvp trying to make l2p comments. Yes it's hard to kill certain wizards 1v1 - I won't argue with that.
^
(though, LS/ET-level skilled heavy-stealth rogues with Gtenes/rank 9-10s dont have much troubles with such wizards. At least i'm winning like 3-4 of 10 average. If you know any wizard able to do at least 8 of 10 - record him and show me, i'll send him a beer via mail.)
^
But pvp in current meta very rarely about 1v1 for wizard. None of 5 classes able to survive well coordinated 1v2 atm - sooner or later they gonna die. And the f**ing point of 1st post was: in 1v2 (obviously, 2v2, 2v3, 3v3, 4v3, etc can be approximated by 1v2 situation) we die 1st by HUGE time margin. Basically, well-played team can drop a wizard in a matter of 2-3 seconds. Every other class able to survive at least x5 longer. And, returning to Ayroux's post - our damage aint x5 higher than yours.
My videos