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Difficulty order for tier two dungeons.

orangefireeorangefiree Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,148 Arc User
edited November 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
I just finished my tier one set and did my first tier two yesterday. (Pirate King with one person disconnected after the first boss who didn't come back until we were almost done with the end fight.) I am curious what the difficulty of tier two dungeons is from easiest to hardest. I do not use exploits if that impacts the difficulty order at all.
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  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Easy
    1. Dwarf King Crypt (No real issues here if you can dodge)
    2. Frozen Heart (kiting 101)
    3. Temple of the Spider(bring lots of single target DPS for Syndryth)
    4. Spellplague Caverns (repel on tab is finally useful!)
    5. Karrundax(those first couple bosses are hard to do if you're new)
    6. Castle Never and Malabog's Castle (Here be dragons. Also, party wipes.)
    7. Dread Vault (Might as well do it for the achievement.)
    Hardmode(or how you'll learn to hate revive sickness)

    EDIT: Difficulty of most T2s is highly variable based on party composition.
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  • kaiserschmarrnkaiserschmarrn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 390
    edited November 2013
    I would rate Karrundax as significantly easier than the boss fight in Temple of the Spider. While I agree about the mini-boss fights, the final fight in Temple requires far better coordination than Karrudnax.
  • nearlydiamondnearlydiamond Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 105 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2013
    Syndreth in ToS is a complete rogue boss that just is insanely hard considering the rest of the dungeon at T1 level gear. Spell plague I would have rated as easier actually, it's just long
  • misssmooziemisssmoozie Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 204 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2013
    In my opinion, from easiest to hardest
    1. Pirate King (Yes, this is actually a T2 dungeon)
    2. Dwarf King Crypt (As long you remember you have a stamina bar for a reason.)
    3. Frozen Heart (Buy a GF and have him kite the adds while the boss slowly dies from not being able to comprehend how easy this just got for you)
    4. Temple of the Spider (All burn boss during AS spam OP, plx nerf)
    5. Spellplague Caverns (Push down trash, acquire lootz)
    6. Karrundax (First two bosses are her grunts, Karrundax herself is just a lazy old dragon, unable to fight properly. Also wyrmlings for achivements)
    7. Dread Vault (whatamIdoinghere.jpg)
    8. Castle Never (Has a giant spider, a beholder and a dracolich, what is not to love?)
    9. Malabog's Castle (If you wipe to the first two bosses but still thinks you can do a full clear, unistall)
    DV is placed where it is mainly since it's actually quite easy, just that nobody ever runs it, and the last boss is kind of complicated.
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  • fondlezfondlez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    1. Pirate King
    2. Dwarf King Crypt
    3. Frozen Heart
    4. Temple of the Spider
    5. Spellplague Caverns
    6. Karrundax
    7. Malabog's Castle
    8. Castle Never
    9. Dread Vault

    Basically, tang56's list expanded. I was going to list ToS before SPC but realised that some players cannot even do the first 2 bosses of SPC, whereas ToS endboss is the only tricky boss.

    And, yes, Epic Dread Vault is not "hard" in the sense of mechanics difficulty. It is just a LOT of work and focus at the gear level of most. Still makes it by far the hardest dungeon in the current game.
  • orangefireeorangefiree Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,148 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Thanks for the lists everyone.
    Neverwinter players are stubborn things....until you strip them down to bone. (Cursed players, my flowers, MINE!) Oh how I plotted their demise.
  • slushpsychoslushpsycho Member Posts: 657 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2013
    All dungeons are easy when u actually go with a group that knows how to play

    I can finish a CN on my cw with sub 35 mins full legit run except the first camp fire run with highest dmg, kill counts, tank dmg with guild.( Good group )
    Or
    I can finish a CN on my cw in like two and half hours countless wipe, still highest dmg kill counts, tank dmg with random bad pug.

    Conclusion: bad players are even harder to beat than the real boss.

    As a endgame player I can say all dungeons are easy as cake... if u struggle in them u most likely are not exp enough or u are put with bad teammates all the time.
  • pointsmanpointsman Member Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    No, Temple of the Spider is harder than either Karrundax or Spellplague precisely because in Spider, it's the final boss fight which is the toughest.

    If you die during the first or second boss fights in Karrundax or Spellplague, you can run back to the fight quickly and eventually finish off the boss. When I have done these dungeons with PUGs, that is the only way we were able to finish these bosses. They are doable only because players get multiple attempts at them *during the same fight*. But with the final boss fight of Spider, that is not an option obviously. By contrast, the final boss fights in Karrundax or Spellplague are much less stressful.
  • fakatikfakatik Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 151 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2013
    Spider is easy as long as everybody stays together and surrounds the boss not letting her teleport. I've also found CW's sings to be pretty useful in pulling in the adds on top of the boss and let the other dps' kill them off while burning down the boss at the same time. TR's smokebombs also works wonders here. Also bring in as much debuffers as you can and pile them on the boss.
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  • pointsmanpointsman Member Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Spider is easy for you, but it is very difficult for a PUG. Trust me on this one.
  • lazureelazuree Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    pointsman wrote: »
    Spider is easy for you, but it is very difficult for a PUG. Trust me on this one.
    Depends on the pug... I met fondlez in a pug ToS run, and he was a crazy good cw:) One of our members dc'd so we had to 4 man, DC, CW, 2 TR's. If you use smokebomb in between AS's it keeps the party from getting hammered by adds. It's just a matter of teamwork. And if you bring up GS around this time I think mine was just barely 9k which is fairly easy to obtain.
  • xcessiveforce40xcessiveforce40 Member Posts: 246 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Has anyone published a guide yet to these? Maybe on ipad or anything? It would be nice (even in a pug) to throw up a quick link for others to read as you start to clear trash.
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  • jeffro9000jeffro9000 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2013
    1) Pirate King: loot pinata

    2) Dwarf King Crypt: try not to fall asleep during the boss fight

    3) Frozen Heart: actually well balanced, just a bit silly at the end

    * Mad Dragon and the final boss of Greywolf are tier 1, but...

    4) Spellplague Caverns: balanced. Long, but not hard

    5) Karrundax: unbalanced. The trash is harder than some bosses. I hate this dungeon.

    6) Temple of the Spider: unbalanced. A tier 1 with a tier 2.5 boss. Requires gear and coordination.

    7) Malabog's Castle: balanced, fun, difficult, but not impossible.

    8) Castle Never: castle I never killed draco (legit player)

    9) Dread Vault: don't use crescendo on the brain.
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