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GWF, why the switch paragon paths ?
kabinoles
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I have read the new paragon paths and every body else got new powers
only GWF and GF got switch,I dont like it
I was hoping to get new paragon paths not a switch one:mad:
I feel like I was calling for help and somebody came ,and begin calling for help too
I wanted that my unstoppable could be upgraded to some monster fire breathing wielding great weapon
My Flourish could do his thing than enable them to move for a couple of sec
My Crescendo do his thing than kik them in the face
but naaaah we got the switch
I have play the GF so thats why new paragons would have be a good choice
but its my opinion
edit: now we have like two CW one with a staff and one with a wand ,but that can do the same job
the only diff. is one have a staff the other a wand. GWF & GF got the whammie
only GWF and GF got switch,I dont like it
I was hoping to get new paragon paths not a switch one:mad:
I feel like I was calling for help and somebody came ,and begin calling for help too
I wanted that my unstoppable could be upgraded to some monster fire breathing wielding great weapon
My Flourish could do his thing than enable them to move for a couple of sec
My Crescendo do his thing than kik them in the face
but naaaah we got the switch
I have play the GF so thats why new paragons would have be a good choice
but its my opinion
edit: now we have like two CW one with a staff and one with a wand ,but that can do the same job
the only diff. is one have a staff the other a wand. GWF & GF got the whammie
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Other classes got new content and gf/GWF didn't.. Which sums up how the classes seem to be treated
However after being on the test server and playing around this doesn't work so badly for the GWF... The new path offers significantly more CC.. Which is one of the main reasons GWF have been left out of parties..I'm still playing with different builds and to be honest I'm really not sure which path to go at this stage.. If WMS was on iron vanguard as well then it will be no issue..
The new daily does more damage with a faster animation..frontline offers alot of cc GWF hasn't had and the new at will is a great gap closer. But I'm still not sure...
Question is whether to take the CC of iron vanguard at reduced dps or just go with the significantly high dps from that destroyer sword master offers... But I think out of these paths it seems like GWF has probably fared abit better than most and time will tell if it can ressurect the class
The problem is the content.. A tank just is not required in this game.. When u have the most squishy classes loaded with CC and immunities/dodge.. Well they become a super efficient tank that can dps too.. The problem is the content. GWfs have suffered more than anyone trust me
The new TR path is not even close to viable. Less than 5% of TRs will run it because of how bad it is.
The CW path is just ok. not good...just ok.
Fighters run away with all the benefits and then go and complain on the boards. GWF is now viable in PVE and will be OP in pvp. Both have good boosts. that's the key here, boosts. Unlike some of the other classes such as TR who actually become significantly weaker with the new changes
Technically, we all feel pretty bummed we ARE getting "cross pollinated" Andy.
By merging the 2 trees, it is presenting players with a conundrum: What's the point of having BOTH GF's and GWF's if they are now technically capable of the same job? It confuses the classes and creates gray lines.
Really bummed on this one.
Of course, the reasoning that will be given is the usual DnD Fighter nonsense, which unfortunately many players will believe (probably because they have not played both or even either class). But we all know there is a very large difference in implementation in both the existing game and DnD rules, let alone the new class that is being introduced. Given how immensely different the two classes play in practice, this was just a particular example of lazy, low cost design.
So, just reroll to your new GWF and have fun while for a while or play an alt, if you're a GF.
And, corpsemaker86, I'm pretty sure if you played a CW and saw your Paragons mixed with DC or TR (or any other combo) you would,
1. as your new content, be pretty pissed too,
2. be highly concerned about the future of your entire class due to cross-balancing.
GF/GWF
TR/HR
DR/DC
CW/WL
+1 more??
GWF and GF are VARIATIONS of the same class. Neverwinter decided that instead of using the base classes, and having us choose a subclass later, the "classes" would be the sub-classes.
Fighter extends into three fighting styles. Two Handed weapons, dual wielding, and sword and board. It's all the same class, but with variations in feats and power options.
It makes perfect sense that these classes have overlap. They aren't individual classes, but sub-classes of Fighter.
We haven't seen it on any other classes yet because Fighter is the only class that has two "sub classes" in the game currently.
Every base class in Dungeons and Dragons has 2-4 variations. For instance Warlock has: Curse Warlock, Binder Warlock, Chaos Warlock, and Hexblade. Each one plays differently, but they have some power overlap, ESPECIALLY in the Paragon Paths.
yeah I wouldn't be surprised if sometime in the future when they come out with The Brawny Rogue, Battle Cleric, or Blaster Wizard, (or whatever variants they choose to use.) If they share paragon paths with our current Trickster, Devoted, and Control, versions of said classes.
However, before we get alternate versions of the classes we already have I want to see Warlocks, Paladins, BARDS, Barbarians and more. Seems like the Devs have a LOT to choose from.
People were screaming for Ranger and Druid.
You are getting that AND more.
Effin chill.
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You do realize that the DnD class is Fighter and the Greater Weapon Fighter and Guardian Fighter both stem from that right?
What the cross over has shown me is that Swordmaster is a terrible Paragon Path and could use some buffs. I dont see either class iusing this paragon path at all. And I think GF's can make use of it better than GWF's. Weapon master strike gives GF's area at will they never had before and with GF's superior AP gain that damage imunity for 5 seconds looks pretty sweet.
But to give it Threatening Rush Frontline surge and Trample the fallen for two neatish moves it's not going to happen.
On the other hand for a GF swordmaster does seem good for a tactician or protector but not so much for a Conqueror hence the complains.
seen from the cw sight what is the point of getting a new paragon when all the skills is considerably weaker by ALOT then the storm paragon is?, its a useless paragon and i rather have more options in the current setup then getting a useless extra paragon.
just makes me so sad how bad the new paragon is in comparison to the storm paragon (this is from actually testing, not just trying it for a few hours to try it.)
For the fire control wizard. It doesnt seem to have that much of a variety in skills. you have only 3 fire spells. One at will. One encounter, and one daily.