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nbd474
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 11 Arc User
Hello fellows DC's. As title say need someone to check my build. After talking with my guild mates changed it a litlle:
http://nwcalc.com/dc?b=nlq:4zj27:b5ks,13l3314:6c000:6zu0v:6x000&h=0
http://nwcalc.com/dc?b=nlq:4zj27:b5ks,13l3314:6c000:6zu0v:6x000&h=0
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As for powers, get Terrifying Insight. It's an extremely useful power for when you're leveling/soloing. You can skip Prophecy of Doom. Your power selection seems to focus on healing/control, so you won't miss it.
@tyrtallow I'll use sacred flame when i don't need to run, avoid things that much, otherwise BoTS. HW only when i need to (CN last boss, FH last boss etc.). Prophecy of Doom is uselles for PVE endgame? bcs I don't want to respec when i hit 60. Without HW can i skip Righteous Rage too? wanted to get this, but didn't have free points left without sacrificing something else.
Thanks for reply
Powers: three in HoF? I...would honestly question putting even a single point in this, now. It was mostly only useful as a noobkiller in PvP, and since they lowered the damage it's not even that anymore.
Hm I see you're going for a full healer/support build. I think your build is cool for that, so don't forget to build your gear around Recover > Power > Critical > Defense. Dark enchats for utility enchats. I suggest Holy Avenger for weapon enchant, and barkshield for armor.
Power rotation that I like to use (not a full support, but can do this role ok):
Forgemaster's Flame / Healing Word (divinity forgemaster's flame is great for easy bosses)
Sunburst (for AP and Divinity build and CC)
Astral Shield
At will as you said.
Passives: Holy Fervor and Foresight / Healing Lore
Daily: Flame Strike and Hallowed Ground
It will works great in probably all pve content.
For stats here is what you should aim for at 60
at least 6k power
soft caps on Recovery and Crit i.e. 2,800ish
Defense --1,500
In the case of your build, maybe the 2 are AS and HW. But I dont really feel that I need to go that way everytime, for example, when the group is low of CW (controllers), I prefer sunburst then HW to help with CC. Or when the group has not good dps, maybe I can try using divine glow. I think is better to get used to analyse the situations and choose the right encounter powers.
Good game btw!
http://nwcalc.com/dc?b=nnh:4zj7j:b5kg,13l3314:6c000:b5u0v:8l000&h=0
As you can see i took Holy Fervor incase i'll dont need one of others passives for solo content, i'm hoping i'll not suffer bcs lack of HoF
In your build, I'd swap it out directly for Prophecy of Doom. PoD seems like it could be great, but it's hard to think of a situation where there's not a better use for your encounter slot (though it does have an awesome animation). You could also drop Brand of the Sun. You're probably going to need Sacred Flame and Astral Seal out most of the time anyway. Or finally, you could drop Divine Armor since the most useful thing you can do is keep Hallowed Ground up as much as possible, especially with Moontouched. There aren't too many circumstances where DA is better than HG.
I dug up the old thread where I tested all buff/debuff values:
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?483251
Greater Divine Power aka 4th pip - is absolutely trash. Especially since you have Divine Fortune and Ethereal Boon.
Ethereal Boon - if you're going to use it, then you don't need Divine Fortune. You should really put a 4th point into it from 4th pip.
Divine Advantage - This is a trivial skill, I guess it could be used in pvp but in pve there are not many scenerios where reducing combat advantage dmg makes or breaks a fight. You are better to max out Righteous Rage of Tempus.
Righteous Rage of Tempus - This should be maxed and Divine Advantage ignored.
Deepstone Blessing - Since you are Faithful and using Moon-Touched, this is a wasted feat. You shouldn't be using Divine Armor because Hallowed Ground now heals making Divine Armor much less desireable to use.
Enduring Relief - Much better to use the points here. Enduring Relief is proced by all heals and will most like always be on your targets rather then sometimes if they have temp hps. Which they would only have from Sacred and doesn't have the same uptime as the rest of your healing skills.
Other than that, your build looks like the typical cookie cutter Faithful pve cleric build.
popping up fairly often, so it's at least working. The thing is that one more rank of Bountiful Fortune isn't going to make much difference, either. I'd like to think I might get a lucky proc of Cleanse at some point and remove a really nasty DoT or something.
I also totally agree with you about the fourth pip of Divine Power. It might be useful if we had DP regen over time, so you were frequently going into a pull with an extra pip. But the way I look at the right now, it's a resource you should be building and using constantly rather than something you need to save up for emergencies. If you are sitting on 4 pips, you're wasting resources. You could be throwing down a blue Divine Glow and buffing group damage by 20% for example. That said, as with cleanse, one extra point somewhere else probably isn't going to make too much of a difference either.
I actually think Divine Advantage is underrated. If you figure that Combat Advantage is a 15% bonus anytime you are flanked, which is almost constantly with this game's add spam, then you can look at Divine Advantage as 12% damage mitigation whenever it's up. That's pretty good considering you can get nearly 100% uptime without even going 5/5.
I agree about Deepstone Blessing. The TempHP from Sacred Flame is so little that you should ignore it. It turns out that other classes actually have better TempHP buffs than we do right now. I believe Deepstone Blessing works for any TempHP source, so it's not only useful when paired with Divine Armor (which this build shouldn't be using), but I still feel like Enduring Relief is better overall. It's really hard to say, and I can't imagine that even extensive combat log parsing would show more than a 2% total difference.
Regarding 4th pip...well, it's really a question of how much leeway you like to have. Think of it as a wider buffer-zone for DP: "If you are sitting on 4 pips, you're wasting resources" is true, but if you're sitting on 3 pips you're also wasting resources. If you're really going for the uber dynamic healing model, you should be wavering around the middle of your "full DP" amount, always keeping DP low enough to still be able to build it, but high enough that you can spend it. If you've only got 3 pips, this middling sweet-spot is smaller than if you have 4. Plus it allows you to frontload an extra pip whenever DP is plentiful, like at the start of dungeons, or toward the end of a fight when everything is basically 'handled': you can just sit and spam sacred flame and get a whole extra pip's worth of DP (plus going into PvP as a faithful-heavy cleric with 4 pips is better than going into PvP as a faithful-heavy cleric with 3). And, as whistlingdixie points out, the other things you could spend that feat point on are not really that spectacular.
I dont wanna be a full healer, i'd also like to be able to be a party buff guy, any advices? feel free to PM me
and sorry to OP if i'm being OT but as i've said i cant make my own thread atm...