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Pig mounts are the best - wish they could be reasonbly upgraded.
slayorian
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I love the animations on the pig mounts. I'd love to use it as my primary. However, for what it would cost to upgrade the thing, I think I could buy a used car that runs well.
On a side note, has anyone even bothered to see if the mount upgrades work? The prices are so absurd I wouldn't be surprised if nobody has. Makes my 3000 zen armored bear (that unlocked for ALL of my chars) seem dirt cheap.
On a side note, has anyone even bothered to see if the mount upgrades work? The prices are so absurd I wouldn't be surprised if nobody has. Makes my 3000 zen armored bear (that unlocked for ALL of my chars) seem dirt cheap.
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Hot wheels toycars don't count
Still far too expensive to be worth it.
Honestly, I think that mount sales (zen and otherwise) would improve if there was a global mount speed, be it a separate thing or just dictated by your fastest mount. A person who has a top speed mount is going to be less willing to grab a low speed mount, even if it more matches their style, simply because of price of making up for the efficiency lost, but if every mount is at their existing top speed automatically then its purely a factor of paying for a different look and being a multi-mount collector becomes more attractive.
A few mil AD... that's what, $100 in zen? Ok, maybe not a well running used car. But a real car, at least.
That is not necessarily true. If they drop the price by half, and end up selling twice as many, they have done absolutely nothing to improve their profits. In fact they will have hurt their business by devaluating their own product. To paraphrase wikipedia: "More profit is gained from up-selling to premium customers than is lost from catering to customers who refuse to purchase expensive goods".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_discrimination#Premium_pricing
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While this is all true it doesn't really apply here. These are virtual items that are worth nothing in the real world so selling one is profit, selling more than one is even more profit. If no one buys your premium priced coffee you LOSE money because you are throwing it away. If that happens you lower your price. Hardly anyone is buying these items which makes it obvious that a change is needed. The idea here is to boost sales to make more profit and a reduction in cost would make the items more attractive and increase sales. The mount upgrades should equal the cost of the lowest Zen mount, which only cost 875k AD with normal exchange rates (350ish). The price won't always be perfectly equal due to fluctuations in the market, but as long as it is close it would be more enticing to a player with one character or lots of AD to spend.
considering the wiki article is about price discrimination and in the first paragraph, they specify products and services... i'd say it does apply. and services are not like coffee. if you don't sell them, they don't go bad.
but i'm sure that pwe or cryptic aren't hurting from lack of mount upgrade sales. there are plenty of howlers, nightmare mounts, owlbears, white tigers, etc running around neverwinter. if the lack of mount upgrade sales were a huge problem, they would have already addressed it.
There is more to consider than what they make from the cost of the upgrade itself. They have rank 2 mounts in the Zen shop that would sell more often if it didn't cost 2-3 times more to upgrade them than it does to buy the mount in the first place.
When I first started playing I bought the unarmored wolf with the intent to upgrade it. (I liked its look better than the armored version.) But have yet to do so because of the price. If the upgrade cost for mounts wasn't so outrageous, I would have bought the orange tiger too.
The high upgrade cost is causing them to miss out on pure Zen sales.
Here's on way of looking at thing: If 2500 Zen is the price for the cheapest account-wide T3 mount, and that a standard/base account has 2 character slots, what if the total cost to go from a R1 to a R3 mount was 1250 Zen, (it could be 500 for R1-R2 and 750 to go from R2-R3), or an equivalent amount of ADs.
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Virtual items, like any other items, are worth what people will pay for them. Further, virtual items are real world transactions as they involve real people buying them with real* money.
*Money in itself is an example of what is mainly a virtual item (numbers in accounts) that is seen as having real value.
That's not how these prices are determined, as they are not basing them on some sense of equivalent value. Rather, they are offering the upgrade path for those that wish to have unusual T3 mounts as a premium, luxury item, sort of like how some pay for luxury cars and are willing to pay higher prices to get them, even if they could get an equally functional car for much less.
But they are already doing that with the other T3 mounts in the Zen store - like the Twilight Unicorn costing more than the Stormrider Cyldesdale. And the fact that the estimate I mentioned was for only 1 mount on 1 character, so would be inherently more expensive and limited anyway...
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That they are already doing that with T3 mounts in the Zen store in no way prevents them from doing that for the upgrading of mounts. The name of the game in f2p, if one doesn't want to sell power, is to charge, charge, charge for those non-essentials that nobody needs but some people want. Nobody needs a T3 pig, as any T3 mount will do from a practical viewpoint, but some will pay a premium to have it nonetheless, allowing the company to earn revenue from what amounts to cosmetics.
I'm pretty sure theres alot bigger market of people willing to pay half the price than 2x the current spenders.
and also the featured satirical comedic adventure "A Call for Heroes".
I know I would. I have yet to purchase any pet from the Z-store, with the exception of a few Ioun stones. and even then it was only during the sale.
Pets are just far to pricey and have such limited use for me to justify buying them on a lark. If the cost was less, or if they were account wide. Id be far more likely to buy pets for fun, or vanity, or for the new silly companion passive bonus. Even with the passive bonus, its just not enough to motivate me to pay that much for one or to upgrade any that I might have.
You may be pretty sure, but pretty sure based on no information doesn't mean much of anything.
On the other hand, those setting the cash shop prices have been doing so for years in many games, and have access to a great deal of data to aid them in their price setting, and the information needed to estimate how revenue would be affected by price changes.
Pretty sure doesn't fare too well versus that kind of knowledge base.