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Why Can't Tieflings Have White Hair?
prettycelt
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Is there some pressing reason that all characters don't have access to the same creation options for appearance?
I've noticed elves with very bright platinum white hair, yet my Tiefling isn't given that option. The lightest shade it gets is gray, without stepping over into blonde. Why? Who made that decision? Fire them and offer the same options across the board, at least as far as color choices for such things as eyes and hair.
I've noticed elves with very bright platinum white hair, yet my Tiefling isn't given that option. The lightest shade it gets is gray, without stepping over into blonde. Why? Who made that decision? Fire them and offer the same options across the board, at least as far as color choices for such things as eyes and hair.
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Wood Elves and Half-Elves have the same 10 rows of hair colour options as Dwarves, Humans, and Halflings, plus one row of greens.
I have input all the hair/eye/complexion options on the wiki (e.g. http://neverwinter.gamepedia.com/Tiefling) except for Moon Elves and Menzoberranzan Renegades, since I don't have those packs.
The limited hair color selections has been something Zebular and I have nudged them about quite frequently. His character has gray hair instead of white because the game doesn't permit him to have white.
Other notable lack of options are mainly with the drow not permitting the use of bleach blond hair (normally denotes old age or sickness) or the ability to choose green, blue and gray eye colors on drow (normally denotes surface elven bloodlines)*
If Zeb sees this post I am sure he can chime in with a whole slew of missing coloration which are specifically stated in the lore and source material as possibilities.
*I forget which eye colors aren't an option but I know at least one or two of them aren't available selections.
I mean, yeah, you can get a "change appearance" token from the zen shop, but that's not what i'm on about. (I haven't used one, but I'm going to guess that it doesn't unlock new hairstyles and colors.)
I would have really liked to have the option to make my Half-Orc of a more greenish hew, but no luck. If I remember correctly, there's been some talk about adding more options at character creation. Hopefully we'll have more options in the not too distant future.
For example i would really like to give my drow priestess grey skin, but unfortunatly almost all the skin color options are shades of brown or pitch black. Also, more hair options is needed, it is really sad in my opinion that there arent more longer hair options. Almost all the hair options are some form of mohawk
I want white, not grey but pure white hair for my, well all my toons. Would be happy to have it on my teifling, if that's all I can get, but would it be that hard to put a full rgb list on there?
"Why can't Tieflings have helmets, without clipping errors?"
the same goes for the dwarven helmets, because of their big noses clipping through anything,
aswell as the half-orc helmets with eyebrows/teeth etc. clipping through the visor(s)...
While we are at it, why do male GWF with a medium/slim body type have the sword IN and not ON their backs?
Crazily good designs, yet no way to make use of them on 50% of the classes.
Ye gods! Next you'll be wanting female Dwarves without facial hair and alcohol problems too!
Kaylee Krankenwagen, level 60 GF | Tavandruil Wayfinder, level 49 GWF | Aldith Langley, level 51 HR
Edit: Gimme them alcoholic women.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Like a snow plow, but for people.
I doubt we'll see race-specific armor and clothing, so any that have different traits, (like Tieflings' horns, half-orcs' tusks, etc), are going to look weird wearing them... and which is probably another reason why we can disable the visual on the helmets but not other parts.
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Hairstyles are another thing, it's always been a big thing in Star Trek Online as well, hairstyles for different races being limited, and the hairstyles on Neverwinter are limited for ALL the races, they really need to add more, and fixing the current ones for the models they have should also be a priority for their art team, going back to Tieflings...some of the hairstyles clip through the portion of their horns on their brow, which is very VERY immersion breaking...it effectively limits Tieflings even more on their hairstyles.
(idk about other races, as the only non-tiefling character i have is a moon elf, and elves and human facial features are pretty vanilla and work with pretty much all hairstyles, though i would like a larger selection of colors, hairstyles, and tatoos for them)
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But that Tieflings cant have white hair is really....strange. I mean shouldnt white hair be an option to all races? Perhaps i am biased though since i almost always give my characters white hair. I think its pretty looking and gives me a sence of fantasy. Yet alot of them only get blond or grey.
A few of the meshes and textures are a little wonky with non-tiefling races' hairstyles, too, and some of them clip slightly on certain face shapes. The really good hairstyles are just that -- really good -- but some of them could use a little extra polishing. All of the medium/long female hairstyles come to mind; the medium-with-bangs looks great, but many of the others are just a little rough around the edges texture-wise.
Kaylee Krankenwagen, level 60 GF | Tavandruil Wayfinder, level 49 GWF | Aldith Langley, level 51 HR
A tiefling's offspring will always be a tiefling, no matter the race of the other parent, and they live the same as humans. They also can have body hair, but no facial hair. Their horns can be cut off, and some tieflings have done it themselves so they are accepted in human society.
Differences: tieflings smell like sulphur, are heavier than humans and resistant to fire.
That is the retconned 4E definition WOTC used when they made Tiefling a full race. Hopefully they change it back, as they were way more interesting before. They were originally a human & fiend hybrid. Meaning they could have devil or demon ancestry.
IIRC the lore explanation for Forgotten Realms was that once Asmodeus achieved godhood, he put a bit of his blood into all exiting tieflings on Toril. Or something like that. Doesn't make much sense for the ones that were descended from demons instead of devils.
This is all true of course, but it doesn't mean you're stuck with it. After all, if your Tiefling is a 'proper' Tiefling of Toril or not is really an RP note only. You can be part of a family of Demon blood Tieflings that somehow avoided Asmodeus' sire-ing (which is a heck of a story on it's own) or maybe not even from Toril. Personally, the RP behind my Tiefling is that she's from Sigil, and was 'hipped' through a one way portal, and is now stuck on Toril.
Point being, it's your RP story. Other Rp-ers aren't going to hold you to the true Toril story too hard if you have a half decent explanation, and folks that aren't Rp-ing don't care to hear your story anyways.
What you can't do right now though is have white hair. I'm secretly wondering if it wasn't on most hair colors to avoid folks making pseudo-drow back in the beginning, but I wasn't here so...
I draw as Masamundane.
Kaylee Krankenwagen, level 60 GF | Tavandruil Wayfinder, level 49 GWF | Aldith Langley, level 51 HR
Well, I got nothing then.
I draw as Masamundane.