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marracen
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From what I can see with this class, it's feats are far to slow to hit. A GF can Stun slam you twice as fast as you can use knockdown. I understand we use a 2 handed weapon, and if that's the answer to my suggestion, then GF should never hit harder than I do.
Throw weapon ability. We have a limited sprint ability to try to catch up with characters that have multiple escape and CC abilities. If someone is running away at least allow us to throw our weapon at them, it was a great fix in Dark age of camelot for armsmen.
3 seconds of immunity after launching a daily does not work. Any GF can blow you back mid launch causing it to fail.
I understand we are an off tank dps class. But so is a TR yet they can out tank, out damage and out CC us. So why not just do away with our class and build something better? Hell give me a ranger class with a bow. Can't even get epic groups to gear up as a GWF, so what's the point in playing?
Throw weapon ability. We have a limited sprint ability to try to catch up with characters that have multiple escape and CC abilities. If someone is running away at least allow us to throw our weapon at them, it was a great fix in Dark age of camelot for armsmen.
3 seconds of immunity after launching a daily does not work. Any GF can blow you back mid launch causing it to fail.
I understand we are an off tank dps class. But so is a TR yet they can out tank, out damage and out CC us. So why not just do away with our class and build something better? Hell give me a ranger class with a bow. Can't even get epic groups to gear up as a GWF, so what's the point in playing?
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T1 gear =
T2 gear = : |
Best gear = having a chance to be at or near the top in damage done.
What they should give us, is the ability to hit people while they dodge. After all, its only fair, We have no actual defense ability, why should any opponent. Give us a passive ability that allows gwf to strike players while they dodge, so our attacks don't waste our cooldowns. Also, give us the ability to hit players while their immune.
On another note. We have the biggest damage range on base weapons. So why do we do among the worst at-will damage compared to every other class except the dc? Trickster rogues have weapons that have less than half the base value ranges compared to the gwf weapons. They don't even come close, combined. So why do they hit a hell of a lot harder than gwf's using big massive weapons?
I'm having fun with my three.
The key statement is that you 'enjoy' the GWF. That is all that matters in the end.
Thanks! :cool:
Our Dailies are for sure Sub-par, across the board...
No. Just no. I play three GWF's and even I find that stupid..
(and no one ask why I play 3, I wont answer. None of your business. )
And our dailies do suck. If they didnt nerf our AP generation when attacking multiple enemies. that wouldnt had been a problem.
I wouldnt mind using less than useful daily abilities more often compared to other classes.
We have literally very few daily abilities that are good in dealing damage.
But nope!
I have 5 gwf's. All of them 60, and another on the way. I've played every class, through every bracket of pvp with the exception of my TR which is now 52. And my cw which is now level 40. So I've seen quite a bit, having 11 characters. I've done the dungeons. I've done the pvp. And I've stopped playing my TR because I realized they are incredibly overpowered. That class, really needs a nerf, not so much with damage, but definitely with their cc abilitys.
I've seen our actual at-will damage, with nearly 30% armor pen (past cap I know). And with a 15% bonus damage via Str. I still cannot break the minimum listed damage on my weapon. (Without combat-advantage, or critical hits). All of my gwf's are destroyer spec, with 5/5 points in student of the sword.
When they nerfed the gwf, they didn't nerf the base modifier for outgoing damage, they reduced our overall output of dps by roughly 55% to 60% after the fact its all totaled up. That's when the penalty kicks in, after everything else has been calculated. Not before. Its the very last modifier the class has regarding all outgoing damage.
I would have been happier if they went through all the weapons related to the class, and lowered the ranges on them to moderate it a little better, rather than slap us with a after the fact huge penalty on all outgoing damage that persists through every level from 1 to 60.
On a side note, I created that many GWF's because despite being under powered. I still manage to come out top spot in nearly every pvp, throughout all the levels with the exception of 60.. Its not any fun at all doing pvp in the 60 bracket. The TR damage is too outrageous to be considered *balanced* by the dev team. And i should not have to spec sentinel and gather the gear for it, just to survive a second or two longer vs a unskilled tr still wearing greens. Hell, my last gf was hitting harder at 48 in full rares with 5.2k gs. Than what my gwf was hitting at 60 with 13k gs in full epics, with just the at-wills.
Gwf's at 60, are completely ridiculous in the destroyer line. Only thing they have going for them is takedown, roar and crescendo. And that's barely.. Even my dc's at-wills can dish out more damage than what my gwf's can, and that's pretty sad.
My GWF encounter powers hit like a truck...or so I thought. It is evident that GWF is the step child.
Dragon Server
Ragnos Fireborn - 18.7k GWF Half-Elf
Eva Darkblood - 13.8k TR Elf
Venger Force of Evil - 13.7k CW Tiefling
Azaghal Belegost - 16.5k GF Dwarf
Drak'ar - 13.3k HR Drow
Roghthar Darkspawn - 11.5k SW Human
It's not being a Debbie downer but speaking of the facts. It is the only way the devs may change the class as so many players have a huge problem with it.
It's fun to drive a golf cart, but it's not allowed on race tracks. Neither should weapon fighters be allowed in dungeons.
http://youtu.be/-2Mnnjponj4
http://youtu.be/ORhM9bEt8SI
but, I agree, the first video is a lot more fun ... hahaha
I'm looking forward to the coming patch for Iron Vanguard, along with the buffs to some of our powers, in particular Wicked Strike and the Instigator Capstone.
I just not choose why, from what I read the gf, the new gwf has a small inconsistency that will be corrected soon. Besides being difficult to play.
^^
Class Features: Bravery increase chance to deflect by 1.5/3.5/5% and generate threat when striking Marked targets.
Heroic Feats:
Toughness: Increase Total Hit Points by 5/10/15%.
Steely Defense: Gain power equal to 5/10/15/20/25% of your defense.
Grit: Remove 40 second cooldown.
Ubiquitous Shield: Reduce the effect of Combat Adavantage against you by 10/20/30/40/50%
(All of these are from my DC persepective. The rewards for choosing survivability for a melee aren't enough right now.)
Instigator Feats:
Fleet Footed: When you damage a controlled target, you gain 15% run speed for 3 seconds.
Nimble Runner and Group Assault should be switched. You should be able to feat an at-will for more damage closer to the point where you get a chance to acquire it.
Allied Opportunity: Might Leap and Not So Fast ... blah blah... grants Combat Adavantage to your Allies for 2/4/6/8/10s.
Crippling Strike: Spinning Strike and Avalance of Steel now Slow your targets by 20/40/60/80/100% for 5 seconds.
** That should give an Instigator PvPer who wants to run a few T2s a Daily to work with Singularity, like Singularity. **
Destroyer Feats:
Executioner's Style: Reaping Strike now has a 20/40/60/80/100% chance to interrupt target's attack. Reduce RS charge speed by .5/1/1.5/2/2.5/3s.
** Think of the Maws in SP. It would be useful to have a party member who could stop the slide. Or Giantsouls.**
Focused Destroyer: Destroyer now has 10/20/30/40/50% chance to creat a stack on any number of targets.
** To cut down on the penalty from switching from mobs to boss or elite add. **
Sentinel Feats:
Grudge Style: The first strike of Sure Strike now Marks targets and generates 10/20/30/40/50% threat on the third strike.
Defiance: Slam and Spinning Strike now generate 20/40/60/80/100% threat against marked targets and.. blah blah...
** These two are specifically geared towards helping GWF off-tank a group of mobs without taunting everything or taunting an unmarked boss. **
The Paragon Feat tweaks are geared towards making the GWF a utility in a group besides just another CW. It's not so much the damage (or the Perfect Vorpals) that nudge the GWF out of the group, but the ability to keep the other CW and DC alive. Interrupt a Totemist or a Red Wizard that can't be CC'd and that's something a GWF could do with that big sword that no one else could do.
As always YMMV.