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Dwarf King Crypt with 3 GWFs

nwnghostnwnghost Member, Moderators, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited October 2013 in PvE Discussion
Try it - the boss melts.

Student of the Sword seems to stack 3x for every GWF, so 3 GWFs = 9 stacks = -135% defense.
Top that off with 3 Weaponmaster's Strike debuffs for additional mitigation reduction and the fact that GWFs (Destroyer) can be Unstoppable 90% of the time and not really worry about health or stuns at all while standing in the red circles, you won't need anyone on add control. This means everyone can focus the boss while the GWFs with the occasional AoE swipes and encounters mop up the adds that join the fray.

The other 2 classes in the run were a GF and a DC. Would probably be faster to replace the GF with another GWF or a CW with HV. Though chances are that if its a CW, he would end up wasting DPS on adds due to being chased by them.

It may even be one of the few situations where having Astral Shield would be a bad thing as the damage taken via red circles would be reduced to an amount below the Unstoppable threshold (stun escape, damage boost).

We had some great runs around 6-7 mins each time.
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  • degraafinationdegraafination Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    A CW would help this party immensely, actually. Just drop a Singularity on the boss and have the GWFs eat through everything at once.
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  • fondlezfondlez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    nwnghost wrote: »
    Try it - the boss melts.

    Student of the Sword seems to stack 3x for every GWF, so 3 GWFs = 9 stacks = -135% defense.

    Woah, nice! That's like a 27% damage increase! It's like having a CW in High Vizier set from crits except its a feat. Sounds great!

    How long does the debuff or stack last? And is it easy to stack per GWF (i.e. not across GWFs)?
  • axer128axer128 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    If you didn't take a GF, who would hold aggro off the DC?

    I rest my case. GF are best at dwarf king.
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  • holsacholsac Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    What was the GS of those GWF?

    Asking as I've also tanked him on my GWF. Once with a GS of 10.8 - failed and another time with a 11.9 gs - success but took a ton of healing potions.
  • pers3phonepers3phone Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    You talk about this more, and in 3-4 weeks the stacks would be maxed to 3, regardless of how many GWFs are doing it.

    Just wait :)
  • misssmooziemisssmoozie Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 204 Bounty Hunter
    edited October 2013
    axer128 wrote: »
    If you didn't take a GF, who would hold aggro off the DC?

    I rest my case. GF are best at dwarf king.
    As DC, I've never, ever had Aggro issues in that bossfight, if you don't count his "ghostshape" dashing around as "aggro issues" and even in that case the CW's goes down first.
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  • inthefade462inthefade462 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    pers3phone wrote: »
    You talk about this more, and in 3-4 weeks the stacks would be maxed to 3, regardless of how many GWFs are doing it.

    Just wait :)

    not really. it takes 3 GWFs to add 27% dmg boost. a single CW adds nearly this (22.5%) with HV, and other than faceroll dungeons like this and PK when would you ever have 3xGWFs in dungeons?
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    one cw alone debuffs,buffs more then 3 gwf ....so i think point of this thread is to get gwf nerfed and destroyer cant be Unstoppable 90% of the time if he do not takes damage and a lot of it
  • fondlezfondlez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    inthefade462 wrote: »
    not really. it takes 3 GWFs to add 27% dmg boost. a single CW adds nearly this (22.5%) with HV, and other than faceroll dungeons like this and PK when would you ever have 3xGWFs in dungeons?

    Logs show the buff from HV is exactly 10% per stack, i.e. up to 30%. Where do you get this 22.5% figure from, please?
  • nwnghostnwnghost Member, Moderators, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    We had a 12.2 a 11.4 and a 9.9k GWF.
    The GF didn't aggro the boss or adds, he just piled on top of him with us and the DC stood a bit out of range casting Divine Glow and the occasional shield and healing word.
    Just went straight in the room and without much thought started bashing everything in 1 spot.

    The GWF debuff is fairly quick to pile on as it only requires a crit to stack 1x, so 3 crits = 3 stacks.

    As I was saying, replacing the GF with HV CW would make this boss even faster. The difference is that you only benefit from HV stacks up to 3x while there isn't a limit on the student of the sword debuff (or most other debuffs for that matter), so it makes more sense to stack more GWF than more CW in this case.

    Unstoppable 90% of the time is very much doable here because as GWF (unlike a TR) you don't need to dodge the red circles andcones of the boss. In fact you want to stay or even run into them so you can immediately pop Unstoppable again when it ends. With a bit of lifesteal (or potion in case you don't have lifesteal), you won't need any healing for that either. Not at the top end of the equip/GS spectrum anyway.
  • grimahgrimah Member Posts: 1,658 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    My current main is a GF but I have to say they are not needed. I can solo the adds with time to spare with my wizard. I do not think another class can clear them faster than that.
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  • nwnghostnwnghost Member, Moderators, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The point of having this many GWFs here is that you don't need to clear the adds in the first place, so everyone can focus on the boss with noone dealing with adds directly.
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