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Got a DC and a CW. Was wondering if the fighter types play anything like their cousins in other games, usually easier? Mainly PvE...
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For PvE, I've found the Great Weapon Fighter, (GWF), to be the easiest to solo. They do good damage and have excellent survivability. Their attacks and other abilities are, IMO, flashier than the GF's, and they have some cool looking weapons and armor. After the GWF, I've found the CW the next easiest to solo, (even easier in some circumstances), then the GF/TR, (GF because of lower damage, TR because of lighter armor), and finally the DC, (I rank them lowest simply due to lower damage, though their survivability is quite high).
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The Great Weapon Fighter moves fast, hits relatively hard, and can live longer than the others on his own (if he's using pots). Standard melee class. Moves are relatively slow so you have more time to think, and more room for error. Not an easy class to be great at, but an easy class to go solo with. Just remember, they are a fighter, not a barbarian, and thus they are designed to be more of the defender role than a striker.
Most powerful? Control Wizard. Going from my GWF to a CW made me feel like I was cheated in life. Control Wizards wreck things, and they can do it from afar. Problem with CW's is things move faster. Have to think faster, react faster, be ready to dodge quickly. There's always some spell or ability going off, some movement you have to make. But if your quick on the mouse, CW is easier than any other class by far.
"D*mn wizards," said Morik the Rogue.
Learn what a GWF and GF really are: The History of Fighters
Ouch. Many agree with this?
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Lol I have all classes 60 and find DC the easiest to play. I don't have to worry about anything except for "is there a blue circle on the ground? No, well time to put one there". Heh it's very relaxing though, I can do dungeons half paying attention and I never have to worry about the actual screen, only the player health bars on the left and where my circle is going to go once every ~15 seconds.
From a PvP standpoint the Sent GWF is one of the easiest to play, but it seems one of the harder ones to gear. I see a lot of terrible gear choices on them... I think setting up your character properly is half the battle. But once you're in beast mode gear wise it's pretty easy to press tab and not die =P
PvE standpoint I would say DC though.
We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
Depends a lot on how you play and who you play with. DC can be a lot of fun to play, they're just a bit more limited than some of the other classes in areas like PvP.
GF is very, very easy. Nothing really does much damage to you, your at will aoe can easily clear trash at any level 1-60, and your encounters hit sufficiently hard to solo the harder mobs rapidly. If you build for high damage, it is a very fun and easy class to play. Tanking is harder and a lower dps survival & threat build is more challenging to play in a group.
Wizard is also fairly easy, with hard hitting aoe and single target skills that really kick in after only a few levels (after level 10 or so its just a cakewalk). However, it is not a durable class and you can actually die, making it marginally harder than the GF. If you have no trouble kiting or maneuvering in combat, its just as easy, but because you have to do those things, it is a little more difficult, see? The GF really can just stand there and take it from 99% of the soloable content.
... Speaking of Rogues, I am surprised no one has mentioned yet how overpowered they are :rolleyes:
GWF and GF are both fighters. They are both defenders. They are both meant to be tanks. But the classes themselves can be played very differently, including different speeds, attention requirements, and methods of thinking.
And even within a class, as I am first and foremost a GWF, I have seen differences in successful approaches. My guild mates prefer the 'sit still and duke it out' approach, and have built their GWF's accordingly. Their tank is significant, their gank is stronger, and they make great frontline fighters and boss managers. They generally use sprint defensively, and unstoppable offensively. Some use Sentinel builds, some Destroyer, and some hybrids.
Me and a few others, though, use GWF as skirmishers. I move more than anybody I've seen in PvP, including the local CW's. I'm constantly applying damage or CC to multiple targets. My tank is amazing, namely due to my offensive use of sprint and defensive use of unstoppable, waiting till it's full 100% for full bonus. My gank suffers, but again, I'm applying more CC than anything else. If only I had a bit more threat (I do have related feats), I would make an amazing add tank.
The point is that the classes are very diverse, and it's really going to come down to how you sync with them. A lot of players see imbalances where the real issue is player input. When you have a full crew at the top of their game, no class is really better than the other in it's given situation.
So listen when a player says 'GWF suck' or 'CW are broken', and take it with half a heart. Play the class yourself.
GF are an amazing class and many work wonders with it, and as much as I love fighters, I can't play it for HAMSTER. I'm so frustrated with how slow they move and how little it feels like they can do. But on the same breath, I also don't care for TR due to how much effort I have to spend trying to stay alive.
If I were like many others, I'd try to have those classes altered to fit my personal playstyle. But I recognize that not all players are the same, and in fact are just the opposite, and that there is nothing wrong with those classes ... just me playing those classes wrong.
Just keep that in mind.
"D*mn wizards," said Morik the Rogue.
Learn what a GWF and GF really are: The History of Fighters
GF - Another easy one to be bad with and not die instantly (you can level to 60 easily). Takes the right feat setup and gear but can be amazing in both damage and surviving.
CW - Absolute beast when it comes to controlling and killing everything in sight. (Be careful, though. In epic dungeons, this class is very key to success. If you aren't doing at least "good" then it's likely a wipe. The party cannot carry a bad wizard unless there's another wizard that's good there.)
TR - Easy to level to 60. If you're not good then you'll spend most of your time dead in epic dungeons. But a good rogue can be extremely useful. Be aware, though, that rogues are EVERYWHERE! and you generally only need one in a group. So odds are, you aren't getting a group unless you have friends/a good guild.
DC - this is the one class I don't have as much experience with. From what I gather, the hard part is leveling to 60 if solo.
most easy: tr>cw>dc>gwf
with the gwf i sometimes had the problem that you cant block anything and also not really dodge so effective as a wizard or tr, so you take more hits and have to watch your hp more carefully.
gf isnt really my playstile
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- Custom PvP leagues with leaderboards instead of the current 'matchmaking'.
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- make jumping cost stamina (to reduce hopping in pvp)
In my opinion there are two phases to a of DC;
- The easy part soloing and leveling to 60.
- The hard part where you have to essentially forego all of your offensive capabilities and become an exclusive healer in dungeons at level 60. Even most PvP groups will chew you out if your are trying to kill/DPS. True, you can get a more offensive cleric build but I guarantee you that you will not have fun in most groups as everybody hates a cleric that doesn't make healing/buffing/de-buffing his/her priority. Only time you can get away with dealing damage over healing is if there are two clerics, one to heal while the other kills stuff, or if you are in a well-played/experienced group that can look after itself without a DC and they don't mind you tagging along and going wild.
What is particularly nasty about a level 60 DC in an epic dungeon is that you are an aggro magnet and if there is no GF/bad GF in the party, you will be drawing mobs from across the world. Healing Word may as well be renamed Healing Taunt because casting that in a dungeon fight is like putting up a huge neon sign that says ''ALL SPEARS, AXES, ARROWS AND CASTS GO HERE''. Factor in that you are likely running powers geared to healing and de-buffing targets, it can be a hell of a battle getting mobs off of you while looking after the others.
I leveled my DC to 60 running 60% solo and 40% with a TR & CW. Was pretty easy. But be prepared to completely change the way you play at level 60 in PvPs and Dungeons. Different animal all together.
CW I can really just jump/move around a bit (as long as I'm not in red circles it's k), spam encounters and storm pillar like crazy to kill things, use either OF or sing depending on what's better for the situation, and just hope I don't have aggro of everything in the room (which unfortunately, I usually do). Getting good damage on CW is ridiculously easy as long as you're not dumb. The class is fairly straight-forward in PvE once you have your build set up well (still working mine out though, but it's getting there). However, in PvP, I feel like CW is one of the harder classes to play, especially as you're extremely squishy and your CCs are easily dodgeable (except for Icy Rays really), and classes like TR and GF can easily negate your CCs/damage skills if you're not careful.
On the other hand, I find TR to be a lot harder to play in PvE. In order to maximise damage, you need to know how to work your AoE skills (Dazing Strike, Duelist's Flurry and Blitz, though blitz is easy and just a spammable skill really), and usually you'd need to work and time your skills with a CW who uses tabbed entangle/sing to get good damage. Also some bosses such as Malabog are a lot more difficult than fighting your typical mobs; where I can jump around mobs in stealth or rely on CWs to CC them, I can't do that with a boss. Also trying to maintain WR on a teleporting boss isn't even really that easy (and I usually don't bother anyway, too much trouble and the boss dies at the same speed anyway). Whereas CWs are at range and can stay out of the way of most attacks, TRs are melee and always up close; therefore, you always have to keep an eye out for danger. PvP-wise, yeah, TR is far easier than CW. I have ITC and stealth, it's far easier to stay alive than just keeping distance. Although on both chars, I detest TRs that simply spam impact shot + CoS and do nothing else. At least you have to make sure they can't dodge LB, lol.
Solo, CWs are still easier than TR. Killing things take way longer on TR than it does on CW (mobs at least, ofc TR > CW for single targets).
Sad but true.
For me, the best class in the game atm is the CW - but you have to be quick on your feet to take advantage of its huge potential damage output and control ability, because you can go splat at any moment if you mis-time things. But then again, my CW is the highest level atm, and that might change as I level up the others more. Also as a CW you are an aggro magnet and that tends to develop an amusing but exhausting Benny Hill scenario in dungeons with the multitudes of adds these dungeons spew out
GF, TR and DC are also fun in their various ways. Nothing says "Baruk Khazad!" like a Dwarven GF. The other classes all have their cool tricks.
Like some others have said above, for me I just coulnd't get on with the GWF - the first AW was just too weird for me to cope with.