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Why is the dev communication with GWF so bad??
pandapaul
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Just seems that they really lack communication with adjusting the class.. They nerf us then add a bunch of ninja nerfs too.. Like the AP generation.. Massive ninja nerf... Now I noticed they must have recently ninja the tooltips to the encounters roar and daring shout recently.. Removing the words "action points".. This has only been recent...
Worst yet they come on here. Announce they are making the GWF better.. Then proceed to nerf and ninja nerf it.. Then disappear again..
If anything.. It's terrible business sense..
Why don't they communicate with us..
Worst yet they come on here. Announce they are making the GWF better.. Then proceed to nerf and ninja nerf it.. Then disappear again..
If anything.. It's terrible business sense..
Why don't they communicate with us..
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Not defending them. I think that's an honest possibility. That they might not agree with many of us players about the GWF's being too poor, and maybe it's possible that the limited forum community doesn't represent the capabilities of the class, or our metrics showing GWF's doing great when everyone is saying we're not.
I'd love to see certain changes, but even I know that I'm close to walking over that line of 'I need more' to 'I want more'.
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Definitely a possibility, but IF that's the case then other classes (Out AoE DPSing GWFs, I'm looking at you CWs!) needs to be addressed. I'd much rather have GWFs allowed to hit more adds, or something, then have another class 'brought down' with a nerf.
Same here buddy, same here! :cool:
The is no excuse for the lack of communication at all.. Other classes get more explanation.. Testing and communication.. GWF doesn't even get told of the changes..
And if GWF is where the devs want it to be.. Well right now it's endangered... If nothing is done.. What comes next?
One I would love to see is the Instigator Cap changed. 15 ft is too small and losing stacks on hit is absurd. They need to slowly drop when out of combat and double the range.
Also would love to generate more AP.
The same happens in reverse with the cw. Since the class is inevitably better for pve anyway, so are better for it to be good in pvp.
In both cases, no matter the abyss this creating in pve, in pvp since they are balanced.
Remember: no other possibility to build was created, or utility, or facility for beginners.
not make sense as the worst pve class to lose half of its damage (and that could be recovered without affecting pvp), it is clear that the focus is pvp and only pvp ...
I think there were a bit too many GWFs running around for a while there. Not sure what the obsession was. Most of the play horribly, too.
Only because they're so much less effective than other classes that nobody wants them in their group.
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I think the reaction from community is normal and is what it should be, otherwise people wont change their way!
See? There has never been an AP nerf. It has been removed from the Encounter, from the tooltip, from all the foruim posts saying that Roar used to generate AP. Repeat after me, Roar has never generated AP, gwf is fine. Roar has never generated AP, gwf is fine. The Destroyer final bonus has always been 10% is has never been nerfed. gwf is fine. Unnoticeable has never had a healing effect, it has never been nerfed, gwf is fine. Repeat after me...
The main problem is in CW. Devs must fix the class to be Controler or DPS it is stupid to be both and to make close-range classes to be runers around. Or CW to control 5-7 targets or something. At all this class need fix - if you said that fix is nerf I do not care much.
After playing with good CW I starting to wonder why to play this game with any other class ? Or why to lose my time with this game at all...
CW make not only GWF but GF too to be useless TR is something ok because 1 target high dps but TR is just option nothing more.
Some ppl here defend CW but wait we all see that the problem is in CW. Do you defend CW or not never mind the problem of the game is CW.
I will see how 'bad' the situation for you are, because i don't see any value anytime of that both skill anytime. =(
Our at wills should at least not have a hit cap.
GWF have so very few area skills as it is.
How it is now. in PVE. GWF is being pulled too strictly to single target damage. And its only short burst.
While TR is and can be both Burst and sustained damage along with CW.
GWF tanking is subpar when methods of holding threat is not there under those conditions.
GWF tanks better in PVP than PVE and thats only in very specific conditions.
GWF is good in pvp because all of thier useful encounters are single target focused.
I defend the CW, and I main GF. The reason why CW's are powerful and able to do the things they do so well is bbecause all there abilities are useful. Not a single CW daily, encounter or At-will falls into the never to be used pile.
This makes the CW versitile in many areas. Example. No one thought CW's where damage dealers until MC was released. Because CW's focused on pushing powers and uitlity powers, gaining "fake" damage done for pushing mobs into acid. When MC comes out CW's respec into damage dealers and then start abuseing HV. Now they top the charts. They have skills and versitility to adapt to new situations.
Other classes need this too.
GWF is the class that has the most never to be used moves. And many really bad moves that are used because there are no other options. Just compare Sure strike to any other classes single target DPS AT-will. Yes it sucks more than Lance of Faith... alot more. And this is why GWF is in the terrible situation it is in. The game is hard, The game cannot even be played with minimal gear to enter dungeons it is so hard. I do not want to see the game get harder if the CW gets nerfed and we are forced to relly on the lame GWF to take its place the game could become impossible for some people and then we lose even more player base.
So yes defend the CW buff the other classes. First GWF then GF.
What ?!?!? The game is hard ? When I was first time in MC with my GWF I was with 80% blue gear and with random party we fail at last boss. If you said on this "hard" I can said only LOOOL.
I do not know what you know about CW but I think that you do not know enough...
there is hardly any reply back from devs but then why would they need to?
im stubborn in the sense i wont change off of my gwf as a destroyer and admit i do ok in pvp .. pve wise no surviveability
but end of the day this game is a business .. their goal is to make money .. as much as many of us would like to see some advancment to level a gwf to be usefull would it really be efficient for a business to give better more level fixes and class balance when so many are willing to pay money to get high level enchants just to stand a chance?
money talks .. devs dont need to in this particular case or in any of the previous complaints on our nerfs