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When will LeaderShip ad farming get nerfed?
drbaals
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Since it seems alot of nerfs from farming are because of the gold farmers using something in excess. IE nodes, PVP rewards. ....
Since gold farmers are buying up character sets that have lvled to leadership AD farming. When will we see a nerf on that?
Since gold farmers are buying up character sets that have lvled to leadership AD farming. When will we see a nerf on that?
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Its not limited reward if you have 500-1000 people doing this all day long with multi accounts.
Just so you know it takes 4 months of everyday clicking just to level leadership to 20, most people quit the game before that.
You realize they did this already. A while back. They nerfed the best low level AD farming mission (Protect Caravan) and turned it into one of the worst. Now you have to spend months leveling leadership to 20 to get at the good missions. Or manage a more complex cycle of doing missions for materials to use in better missions that require them.
He has only been here a little less then a month. So, I seriously doubt he knew this. Not that knowing it would change anything from his normal "I hate the game" spew.
News of the shard merge has the trolls pumped. They have latched onto it as some kind of proof of victory. And as such are simply giddy and atwitter about it. The funny thing is, the ramped up level of DOOM will probably be the catalyst that will get them silenced or removed long before they get to enjoy the merger.
The biggest boon, IMO, is that you can setup the long tasks and basically just check in on them once or twice a day to collect the rewards and setup the next batch of tasks...
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It's actually still the best project in it's Leadership-level range. It just isn't the best one across 99% of Leadership missions (which, honestly, should have been a sign that it was too good.) Yes, it's a shame that they nerfed it, but it really was asking for it.
Indeed... only collect taxes (which requires a green region map) and destroy enemy camp (level 20) are better... There are some other tasks that have a better AD/hr rate, but those have even greater resource requirements or aren't always available (rare tasks that rotate hourly).
"Is it better to be feared or respected? I say, is it too much to ask for both?" -Tony Stark
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Is leadership/invocation farming exploitive? It's perfectly legal, plus it's attractive enough as is to get less active players to log in every day. This is a golden MMO designer benchmark, since dissatisfied players who don't participate any longer are several times more likely to quit altogether than the ones who still log in. What do you think the dev's intended? Box/pack drop rates have consistently favored leadership assets .There is a FIFTY character slot max per account. Slot prices in the cash shop are relatively cheap. Obviously they want players to expand. Don't like the 24k cap? Stop complaining, save up 150k ADs and you can DOUBLE your original AD income cap. I've got 19 toons now, 7 of them actually adventure, the others stay home for support. Leadership is ATM the largest portion of my income, but I don't log in four times a day (Most of the better AD jobs run for six hours.) just to farm professions. Two usually, 3 when I get around to it, but if I'm busy with a story line, I usually won't stop when the clock says ding just to farm Leadership.
This game was intended to be highly monetized. That means very high zen prices. The refining cap in CO is a mere 8K questionite, here its 24K AD, which was done to put low or zero budget players on a more even footing with the big zen buyers. You can't claim FTP with out giving recourse for farming and hard work to level the playing field for players of all incomes/spending levels.
The T2 farming was largely exploit driven. Letting it run on as long as it did was foolish. The game population, rising throughout beta began to drop at 'startup' largely due player issues with zen pricing and the dev's failure to deal with DD cheating. With leadership farming it's the exact opposite. It was intended to work this way, and for a very good reason. Not only that, but the player interface possesses many traits that discourage automation, and it's time consuming enough to make large scale farming intrusive enough on regular playtime that few players will beat it to death.
A serious leadership nerf would turn FTP in Neverwinter into a bigger flame magnet than it already is.
Now yes, if you bothered creating 40-50 chrs and leveled them all up to 20 leadership (would take a long time), that would be quite the daily AD chain, but not many are going to do that. Heck even 10 chrs. is a PITA to keep up with/cycle through on a daily basis after a while. Nerfing Leadership would only put a very slight crimp in "company spammers" plans - eg, you aren't likely to notice much of a difference in that arena - while likely overly affecting legit players.
Leave it alone, I say.
It's funny - I really enjoy this game, but nerfing Leadership after all the work I put into it, well... it's about the only thing I can think of that would make me... not rage quit, exactly, but certainly quit and never return.
We have put a lot of time and resources into getting where we are, we did't wave a magic wand. Don't ask for everyone to be hindered just so you can be on the same level. Instead look around the forum or do a Google search and read a few guides and put some effort into it if you wanna stay competitive.
Because yes, it has to be lvl 20. If you are lvl 18 or 19, you're not getting any AD.
So, four months of daily clicking. And once then, the nerf.
Maybe if you have 50 character slots making 12-16k a day it would be worth it, but you'd have to buy 24 character slots at 500 zen each, would take you months just to recoup your initial investment (not to mention the time spent leveling leadership up, it becomes quite profitable at 20, but less so when below 20)
We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.
Yes the Ad farmers do save the AD and get more character slots then lvl them. I am also mainly asking this question because gold farmers use this method to gain AD. They have a bunch of people all day long logging in and out farming AD through leadership. They buy accounts more money for every character slot added. Hench asking when will they nerf leadership to stop or curb this. But in effect make it suck for everyone. Just like Glory items for PVP and node farmers. They cant stop the gold farmers so they make the game worse for everyone
Gold farmers have a lot of accounts doing a lot of things. You are not helping. If that is even your intent. Riling people up by calling for stuff to be nerfed is just silly. Besides, when has already been answered. It happened a while ago already.
I disagree. Gold farmers likely stick to the base 2 character slots per account. The reason for this is fairly simple - they know that one of their accounts may be shut down at any time, so they would not risk re-investing into it, (such as buying more character slots). They'll grind out leadership w/ whatever basic tasks they can get with a minimal investment, (which is probably why 'protect the caravan' was specifically nerfed).
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The post-nerf Protect Caravan is listed as 100AD per 2 Hours. Or 50AD an hour. There are many AD missions better than that. Two missions off the top of my head that require no *consumed* resources are Battle Undead and Fight Off Spellplagued at 400AD/6Hours or 66.6AD/Hour.
Battle Undead is level 10, while Protect Caravan was only at level 4. That is a bit of a level difference. But the early levels of Leadership take little time, compared to the months it takes to get anywhere at levels 16-20. But my point stands that they took the best mission and made it one of the worst.
The leadership nerf the OP is looking for, already happened.