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The woes of limiting gameplay mechanics to the action bar
nailli
Member Posts: 27 Arc User
The ONLY real thing that irks me about this game (most of all) is that we're utterly limited to what we have locked into the action bar. I mean, it's totally ridiculous to make combat abilities linear in a dynamic combat environment most especially when you can't fully utilize your powers without activating them first...VIA the dreaded action bar.
Simply put, what's the point of spending 'points' on multiple powers if you can't use key and mouse modifiers to toggle between them?
For example:
Cleave = Left Click Press
Crushing Surge = Left Click Hold
Threatening Rush = Left Click Drag
Yes these are all At-will Guardian strike powers, 2 thirds of which I have to ignore because of these 'linear' limitations; which to me is a serious design flaw...
One solution I can see befitting to this game, is to allow key and mouse bindings to be set directly through the Power Sheet. The only thing that really needs to be on the action bar is toggling between Class Features and keeping track of cooldowns.
What are your thoughts on the matter?
Simply put, what's the point of spending 'points' on multiple powers if you can't use key and mouse modifiers to toggle between them?
For example:
Cleave = Left Click Press
Crushing Surge = Left Click Hold
Threatening Rush = Left Click Drag
Yes these are all At-will Guardian strike powers, 2 thirds of which I have to ignore because of these 'linear' limitations; which to me is a serious design flaw...
One solution I can see befitting to this game, is to allow key and mouse bindings to be set directly through the Power Sheet. The only thing that really needs to be on the action bar is toggling between Class Features and keeping track of cooldowns.
What are your thoughts on the matter?
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For example: I usually have Opressive Force and Arcane Singularity on as my CW's dailys. But when going up against the last fight of MC I switch out AS for Ice Knife, and I also switch in Ray of Enfeeblement and Chill Strike, other powers that are not usually on my bar. I find that far more interesting that having all of those powers constantly ready to fire at the click of a button or 2.
This game is f2p but the devs will do whatever they can to get every last bit of cash from this cow.
For example. The DD bops didn't impact too hard on current players. However it made it almost impossible for a new player to get better gear once hitting level 60 without spending money.
Unless of course this new player finds a team willing to carry them throughout the entire dungeon just to get t2s.
But don't forget, before you can enter most dungeons you have to at least get pvp gear, which takes around 25k glory to get.
So they want you to pvp to get that 25k glory which takes forever. Even longer if you're constantly losing because you're dragging your team down do to poor gear.
Furthermore. I apologize for lashing out at you.
Don't try to turn this into the controller version of WoW brah. We don't need that here.
The gameplay forum is full of players who post often, but have little to say.
I play Star Trek Online. In STO, all powers can be slotted on the action bar.
In STO PvE, my battles are as such:
1. Park ship within range of enemy
2. Cycle through powers/abilities while shooting enemy.
3. repeat 2 until enemy is dead.
I play as a control wizard in NW. Imagine if I could slot every power available.
Here's how I would play PvE.
1. Slot every available stun/control power.
2. Move to within range of enemy.
3. Cycle through all stuns/control powers. Enemy will be permanently (or almost permanently) stunned/controlled.
4. Repeat until enemy is dead.
Imagine pvp against a control wizard with a huge action bar. He will put every available stun/control on his bar, and stun/control you to death.
To summarize,
Because there are a limited number of powers on the action bar, it means there are times when encounter powers are on cooldown.
When all/most encounter powers are on cooldown and when daily powers are not charged, the player becomes vulnerable and must move (or use other tactics/strategy) to avoid enemy attack. Hence, we describe such gameplay as action combat.
The only times I die in STO PvE is when I am one-shotted (which is rare) or when all/most powers/abilities are on cooldown (also rarely happens since I have a power which reduces the cooldown of other powers).
I like to think that's why Encounters are called Encounters! So you get actually forced to use your brain and select the powers you must use for a specific situation (encounter).
But well, the main problem is that half of your powers are just <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> and you actually end up with too many powers you'll never use. In the end it feels kinda stupid to have a skillpoint limit. The current system allows you to max 20 out of 27 powers. We could just "buy" them as it is in other games and leave the tough choices and point spending for the talents.
I want this class in NW.
The opposite is the case - it does not lead to more variaty but to almost similar builds. Take a DC in a T2 dungeon. You hardly won't dismiss Astral shield or slot Searing Strike there because your party will need the heals. Most likely you will have the stuff to heal and reduce damage, maybe mix in one different abilitiy, but overall you are playing a DC like most of the people do. If - on the other hand - you would have a chance to slot 2 more encounter powers you could mix in more situative stuff that you could use beside healing, when the party has not much trouble at a time to survive, or if you would need some kind of rescue ability to root the enemies or whatever. I normally would not use chains in a T2 dungeon, because I will drop heals, if I would have more slots I might use it, just to be able to have some CC the time I need it. Or put in a nice debuff, to help the team fighting bosses.
In the end the limitations just will be boring very soon, because you are very limited to a certain role.
I've seen plenty of CWs and not all of them are clones. there are CWs who use frost spells, there are others who still use pushbacks all the time, others who just DPS... I mean there's a lot of variety. There's those who use chill strike as Aoe, others who use conduit, others sho use entangling force.
I want this class in NW.
And I foresee, that you'll never give any feedback that is of value to anyone...ever...care to say anything more that is completely useless?
And you go off on people who gives a different opinion than your own and try to belittle them, and neglect most of what the people thats already posted has said to you.
And even edited your posts which I wont even start about.
There comes a point when theres no point in trying to even argue in this thread with how you are. lol.
just like a poster said before.
I do have a CW, GWF, GF and TR though. I see a decent amount of variety in CWs, as a previous poster stated. I am currently using Entangling Force, Sudden Storm, Conduit and Steal Time, but I have several other powers that I occasionally switch in for specific fights, and while leveling up I used a very different set up. I see many mages using Chill Strike and Avalanche. And that does not even count the possible difference is dailys (not a lot of choice I admit) and their passives.
There is also a decent amount of possibilities for a GWF, depending on their build. It might be easier to see differences in GWFs if there was more reason to play one. I am not as down on the GWF as many people seem to be, but the class does need some help.
I also see quite a bit of difference between TRs. And there is a huge difference between a TR PvP and PvE build. Some prefer Impact Shot, while I have also seen many TRs with Blitz on their PvE build. To be fair, Blitz is easy to spot so I may just be remembering the times I recognize it more than all the times that I don't.
There is also several good choices for a GF, depending on how tankish you wish to be.
I am all for additional variety between builds, and I hope that our upcoming new Paragon Paths will help with that.
I have to disagree. My DC just hit 60 and I find it much easier to get T2 with the change. I ran 1 karru and got my choice of T2 gloves. GS is less meaningful for DC, but other classes just have to get their T1 first (which is also easier during DD). So the time it takes to actually farm all your gear is less even with having to farm T1 since T1 is like 50% drop chance from DD.
Not to mention the lowered GG coin costs of GG gear, so you could farm GG for some decent T2 and those dungeons are super easy.
We are definitely dominating, and we are always about to win.