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Disciple of War vs. Battle Awareness?

enderlin50enderlin50 Member Posts: 993 Arc User
edited September 2013 in The Militia Barracks
Right now I have 5k Power and 2500 ArmorPen(lil overcapped with my stone). I have Disciple of War but guy in my guild is telling me I should swap it for Battle Awareness taking the 25% Power increase during Slam. Any thoughts on this?
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  • enderlin50enderlin50 Member Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Anyone? I don't wanna respec if I don't need to
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  • meeggtoastmeeggtoast Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 159 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    Slam is pretty insignificant compared to Spinning strike. Most endgame gwfs are running Spinning/Avalanch/Crescendo.
    2500 armorpen is a little over the top. All you need is 1700-1800 armor pen with 15 con.
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  • copticonecopticone Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Short answer: Don't respec.

    2500 ArP while it's well over what you need for PvE, it will make a big difference in PvP. Battle Awareness was never a good feat, and now with GWF generating Dailies at a slower rate, it is even worse.

    If you dont care much about PvP, I would remove any Darks you have in offensive slots and replace with Power or Crit/Recovery if they are not at least at the soft cap.
    Check out my personal Nerf Proof T2 Thaumaturge Build.
  • tarmalentarmalen Member Posts: 1,020 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    Punishing Charge delivers ~4% PER target AP. Damage is bad but it does get the AP generator going.

    Mobility is nice but my play style prefers Roar.

    Not much for PVP but for PVE Punishing Charge does what is needed for add intensive fights where you want to gain AP.

    Final Boss in Karrundax is a great example.
  • nonameidknonameidk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    My god.... I was just talking to a guildie about that. We are similarly geared but I had 3 mil on him last Malabog run we did together. Guess where our difference is.
    When in doubt, just hold on. A new day will rise :)
  • enderlin50enderlin50 Member Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    nonameidk wrote: »
    My god.... I was just talking to a guildie about that. We are similarly geared but I had 3 mil on him last Malabog run we did together. Guess where our difference is.

    What did you have he didn't?
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  • nonameidknonameidk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    enderlin50 wrote: »
    What did you have he didn't?

    Battle Awareness
    When in doubt, just hold on. A new day will rise :)
  • belprahbelprah Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I highly doubt that 5 seconds of 25% extra Power from an overly nerfed Daily that is tough to build up to can result in a 3 million damage difference.
    And yep, it is indeed only 5 seconds of 25% Power after Slam. The tooltip lies, as stated here and as verified by me just a few seconds ago.

    :/

    I'll be speccing out of this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> first chance I get.
  • nonameidknonameidk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    No, it last full 10 seconds. Test before you speak pls.
    When in doubt, just hold on. A new day will rise :)
  • belprahbelprah Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I tested it by looking at the duration of the Battle Awareness buff underneath your target icon.
    And I tested it again, just for you and a second ago, with my character sheet up and while it was running.
    Power went back to its normal value as soon as the Battle Awareness buff expired, while Slam kept on going.

    Test it yourself before rebutting me, pls.
  • enderlin50enderlin50 Member Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I tested Battle Awareness a few times today on my Drow. Its a 12sec duration on the buff for my character.
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  • belprahbelprah Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    enderlin50 wrote: »
    I tested Battle Awareness a few times today on my Drow. Its a 12sec duration on the buff for my character.
    Explain this to me, then:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPGx-dFO74


    How should I interpret this?
    A problem on my end only?
    A bug for only some GWFs?
    A problem... in my head?
    Or I need to l2p? Or l2 count? Because I honestly don't get it.
  • nonameidknonameidk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    belprah wrote: »
    Explain this to me, then:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycPGx-dFO74


    How should I interpret this?
    A problem on my end only?
    A bug for only some GWFs?
    A problem... in my head?
    Or I need to l2p? Or l2 count? Because I honestly don't get it.

    I would say a bug for some GWFs only. Either way, just another bug on the list for the devs to fix.

    Edit: Proof
    When in doubt, just hold on. A new day will rise :)
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