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Reaping Strike: Discuss
farfig1337
Member Posts: 108 Bounty Hunter
According to my other poll. Most players feel the GWF need more AOE damage breaking hit caps on all moves making encounters better ECT. I propose to make the first step in this direction by Buffing Reaping strike.
Reaping strike is a slow painful move to use in PvE and is completely useless in PvP. In PvE you can be knocked out of your reaping charge with the most basic of CC plus while charging you cannot dodge at all. To add insult to injury if you do consistently hit 5 targets with full charge reaping strike your damage will not be any better, or maybe even a little worse than if you were using Wicked strike.
Reaping strikes only advantage it has on the other at wills is you gain more determination from being hit while charging it yay... It has the same damage reduction for extra targets hit that other at wills have.
First the damage reduction per target hit needs to be removed. And the hit cap needs to be completely removed.
Even with these mods Reaping strike will still be a painful move to utilize. Alone a GWF gets no benefit from these mods he cant group mobs long enough to get the benefit of hitting more than 5 targets. Until you team him up with a CW. A GWf could charge these in Arcane singularities for great effect. This team up will give the GWF more AOE damage than the CW.
This change will hopefully reduce the need for 2 CW's to control and manage adds in Dungeons. and Make a CW and GWF team up the ideal means to handle adds.
Reaping strike is a slow painful move to use in PvE and is completely useless in PvP. In PvE you can be knocked out of your reaping charge with the most basic of CC plus while charging you cannot dodge at all. To add insult to injury if you do consistently hit 5 targets with full charge reaping strike your damage will not be any better, or maybe even a little worse than if you were using Wicked strike.
Reaping strikes only advantage it has on the other at wills is you gain more determination from being hit while charging it yay... It has the same damage reduction for extra targets hit that other at wills have.
First the damage reduction per target hit needs to be removed. And the hit cap needs to be completely removed.
Even with these mods Reaping strike will still be a painful move to utilize. Alone a GWF gets no benefit from these mods he cant group mobs long enough to get the benefit of hitting more than 5 targets. Until you team him up with a CW. A GWf could charge these in Arcane singularities for great effect. This team up will give the GWF more AOE damage than the CW.
This change will hopefully reduce the need for 2 CW's to control and manage adds in Dungeons. and Make a CW and GWF team up the ideal means to handle adds.
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First, more determination from being hit while charging is completely useless. GWF got almost full determination from being hit by regular attack.
Second, charging time is too long. In the time your charging complete, either the enemies has been dead or you has been dead.
Third, the damage is too little and the area attack is too small.
This can be better if, GWF got defense buff (CC immunity, +50% damage reduction) while charging, Reaping strike has its own debuff attack, and More damage and less charging time.
But then again Wicked strike also needs it caps and damage reduction removed. So Reaping strike needs alot more than jsut that.
Daria - Dwarf Sentinel GWF (mistaken for Halfling a lot)
Karia (aka "The Pug") - Human Combat HR
Kayd - Human Conqueror GF - Retired
I've been thinking a lot about the target-cap. And although I reckon it can be tweaked in some cases, I do think removing it will really make the class OP. All you have to do then is get as many mobs as you can in a small area and keep the GWF in the middle alive for as long as needed.
But I would like the target-cap of some powers aligned with that of the CW. I think we work great with wizards in gathering the trash and disposing of them. But if they can pull 15 mobs in a tight little ball, I want to be able to hit them all.
Reaping Strike would be great for that, as you can time it when the mobs are being pulled, maybe even get hit in the process. You can't spam it and with the same target-cap as a CW's Singularity it would still be pretty balanced imo.
Unless maybe you put a Sentinel in the middle and just keep piling mobs on him
The skill is so bad nobody needs it, best contribution would be if it freed up space for other at-will. This comes to my mind:
Focused Parry (something like this) no base damage. Simply hold to have 100% deflect and CC immunity slowed movement, if get hit can charge the target. (= weaker version of block with utility and offence added)
the post with the full suggestions can be found Here
They should however put a small Acute Cone to Indomitable Strike though. (I know it will already hit the targets in front but make it where we can see where it will hit, and make the slam not just in front but a little to the sides)
If the Devs look at this post they should realize this and do Something... and Do something fast.
It's my opinion that no-hit cap is a really good place to start. But other players are obviously expecting alot more than that.
- Destroyer lasts only 3 seconds. RS full charge cast takes 2.5 seconds. Add in a delay in-between casts and you'll be hard pressed to build stacks.
- Same with Weapon Master.
- I've had SotS stacks expire frequently, if I use RS too much in my dummy-whacking. This almost never happens on other at-wills.
- If SotS can expire, so can Deep Gash - you lose out on ticks.
- Slower attacks mean less procs of Blitz.
- If you use RS while Unstoppable, you need to cast something else before RS, as the first cast doesn't benefit from Unstoppable's attack speed increase.
LoL! I see a mad Gwf running after someone with that opener, with the other guy running away all going oshi..ohshi..oshi..! =D lol
But yeh, would be cool, allowing you to run (not sprint).. while charging, and increase the dmg, because at the moment, it's about as useless as it gets
so far:
Remove The 5x cap (this should also happen on so many other skills) *noticed a cap of 2-3 on some hitts?!* not sure here thou
Allow you to continue moving normally. (but keep the animation and charging obvious to all players)
Increase the dmg pr swing, (even allow for increased recharge, for higer dmg?)
Determination regen is useless* AP recharge instead? or just remove it completly.
And even with these changes, I doubt the skill will be overly usefull in at the higer levels, since faster attacks (allowing for buffs to be active while doing things) will normally be preffered. over a single attack that takes a long time, and will normally allow for most if not all buffs to be gone before you've got it fully charged. X.x
You make a good point on the speed of Reaping Strike. GWFs need to hit alot and need to hit often to land there Debuffs. Specifically Student of the sword and there are many Weapon enchants that benfit from this too like Lightning and Plague fire.
Reaping strike needs debuffs it lands to last 5 times longer than normal, then it might be useful, plsu a ton of other stuff damage mobility you name it this move is <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> without a serious overhaul.