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New Crafted Weapons embarassing (Castle Malabog)
archomental
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 138 Bounty Hunter
Consider what it takes to make them:
1) Level 20 in Artificing or Weaponsmithing
2) 4 blue crafting items (like files for artificing). That's 800k in AD
3) 3 dropped items from Malabog. All BOE, all can be Needed by anyone.
1.5 mil-2mil AD in cost at the minimum
Consider #3 is a small drop chance, and than you have to win roll.
This is all for a SMALL upgrade in stats over the CN weapons. As an example,
a CW gains the following with the new set: +18 damage, +37 power, +8 recovery.
Don't you think with the time and AD cost to attain these weapons, that they would
be much more epic in stats? Literally those stats will make no difference, and the looks
of the item is that appealing either.
Is this the solution to keep people interested? Making it a massive grind for low gain?
The only other thing I can think of, is it makes getting end game weapons harder for
new players to get, as opposed to what it took older players to get out of Castle Never
when that was "end game." New players wont know the difference, but people who have
been around in the game will think "why bother for such a small upgrade."
1) Level 20 in Artificing or Weaponsmithing
2) 4 blue crafting items (like files for artificing). That's 800k in AD
3) 3 dropped items from Malabog. All BOE, all can be Needed by anyone.
1.5 mil-2mil AD in cost at the minimum
Consider #3 is a small drop chance, and than you have to win roll.
This is all for a SMALL upgrade in stats over the CN weapons. As an example,
a CW gains the following with the new set: +18 damage, +37 power, +8 recovery.
Don't you think with the time and AD cost to attain these weapons, that they would
be much more epic in stats? Literally those stats will make no difference, and the looks
of the item is that appealing either.
Is this the solution to keep people interested? Making it a massive grind for low gain?
The only other thing I can think of, is it makes getting end game weapons harder for
new players to get, as opposed to what it took older players to get out of Castle Never
when that was "end game." New players wont know the difference, but people who have
been around in the game will think "why bother for such a small upgrade."
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game is to keep people playing/grinding. I 100% like the way they designed
the new castle. Its fun, short, and has different boss mechanics. With that said,
you would think there would be more motive.
Look at any other game, and the effort, mats and cost that goes into the new
set would be considered Legendary. The situation is even worse for new players
ever since they made epics BOP, and thus removing a major source of AD for players
playing dungeons (and saving up the bank roll for end game gear).
Ah well, at the very least I give them thumbs up on a shorter and more interesting
dungeon.
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The best example is a Stealth build TR. A fully specialized TR of that kind can stay invisible indefinitely during a fight and thus kill even hard bosses all on his own. He will need some time for that because putting all your eggs in the Stealth basket means giving up a lot of DPS and other stats and thus such TR end up having a way lower GS than the average DPS focused TR build.
And the worst part is that once you get your stats past the soft caps, you get less return on each point of gear score. If you already have BiS, then I can promise you upgrading your enchants is going to make hardly any difference. It's just a pride thing, I think. Except for epic enchants, those are actually pretty good.
This is of course assuming you have a stone. You can use that in PvP, so maybe for PvP having Rank 10 enchants is an edge. I have looked into how well you can hit soft caps without a stone.
You're actually missing the point. The reason to upgrade is not (usually) to push way beyond a stat's soft cap, but to enable you to have more stats at their cap.
3 Fragments off AH - 2.5 Million AD
4 Blue Crafting Assets - 1 Million AD
To be the 1st on server to with new shinny "Priceless"!
For everything else there is Master Card.
Currently Rank 19 will be 20 by tomorrow
1. The bonus from the new weapon set is minimal.
2. The Ancient set is very easy to get.
3. There will always be a better weapon. No doubt in 4-5 months something else may be released and it's going to trump the current BiS.
4. It is more economical to perhaps upgrade your enchants. Right now I'm all Rank 6 and 7. Getting Rank 8's is not too difficult and much more cost effective.
5. Don't disregard future discounts. The cat, for instance, is a bit cheaper now than it was. Once people run MC to death, prices will drop.
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they realized you can actually get best gear in the game without spending a single euro(CN set).
and with release of new content they made the fix - it is no longer possible. For best the weapon somebody MUST pay real money now, only way of geting assests is from boxes and those are opened with real money keys. Either you or somebody else must pay real money to create such weapon, clever trick.
(+they can control number of weapons / euro payed simply lowering droprates of assets)
So its not about upgrades or increasing difficulty but marketing
Personally, I feel there is no return on investment for anything above Rank 7 except maybe a few Dark Enchantments to put Rank 8 in these stupid utility slots (and get +movement).
Anything else, slot'able items and a stone will give you a much better return on your AD investment, especially now that getting AD is nerf'ed...
For level60 chars with top line equipement (I got 3 different fully enchanted armor sets), there is not point in playing this game anymore... until they revert back some of their stupid BoP policy (or make a few exceptions like more recent Malabog's Castle drops), AND they readjust the blue crappy item drop to give more epic purple drops... there is nothing to do for me in NWO...
And NO I haven't exploited the game at all to get there in the first place...
Considering MC and CN are still bugged (just tried MC again), I guess I'm only logging for crafting, PVP dailies and Sharandar.
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He is probably meaning after he already has stats to soft caps.
Your critical strike is low. Shoot for 2000.
Your armor pen is sub-par. Aim for 2535.
2nd boss dropped main hand gwf weapon , 1st boss im still not sure if it also drops mainhand
Yes, the T1 version of the mainhand. To get the T2, you need to craft it.
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..Basicly thats all yea
GL and post picture for the others to see lol
does t1 has set bonus?
bec the main hand that it drops has 450 crit on its 2set effect
A good progression would have been
Dread Vault: +2 gear/weapons with only 1 stat
Castle Never: +3 gear/weapons with only 1 stat (rare with 2)
Malabog Castle: +4 gear/weapons with 2 stats
Next expansion: +5 gear/weapons with 2 stats (rare with 3)
After that the expansions could have gear/weapons sets that span multiple expansions in order to get into the Legendary (Artifact/Relic) status.