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The Truth behind the GWF changes
sunsfire2004
Banned Users, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 141 Bounty Hunter
Great Weapon Fighter
•Bravery: Ranking up this power now affects Run Speed (+15% at max rank), but the Deflect bonus has been reduced to +8% at max rank. (-2% dodge but run speed bug fix no big)
•Known issue: The first rank of this power currently grants significantly more Deflect than intended.
•Crescendo: This power now grants CC immunity while active. ( PVP BUFF)
•Slam: The damage from this power has been reduced; it had previously done too much damage for its area of effect, duration, and utility, and the intent is to change its focus mostly to utility.
•The initial cast now interupts targets, and while slowed, affected targets now deal -15% damage (at max rank). )(MEGA PVP BUFF Inrtupt and 15% less damage)
•The power now shows its max estimated damage rather than its per-tick value, and per-tick damage has been reduced by 60%. (most GWF that's 500-600 per tick so now it be like 250 damage tick sucks for pve but no big for pvp)
Rank ups now provide 1 additional second rather than 2. (No Big few Sec less most time its up b4 its finished in pve)
•Steadfast Determination: This is now properly affected by bonuses to Determination.(grate fix More single target DPS when needed specially with new set)
•Feat: Endless Assault: This feat now properly affects Punishing Charge. (Punishing Charge 2/4/6% more dps no big)
•Feat: Focused Destroyer: The tooltip has had a minor update for accuracy.
•Feat: Master of Arms: The max Deflect bonus that this feat can provide has been reduced by 33% (1% deflect lose yes that's all 1%).
•Feat: Master of Arms: The first rank of this feat no longer grants a double bonus.
•Feat: Unstoppable Action: The feat no longer incorrectly increases Action Point gain for longer than expected after using Unstoppable.
•Feat: Unstoppable Recovery: The tooltip has been updated to properly state that this feat heals the player.
So all in all Very nice pvp buff so all the people going gwf nerf aka Trolling tr we know who you are and your wrong as all ways its pvp buff and pve nerf,
what gwf needs
is the other specs to make a difference and really its bad for every one if these slam changes go head 15% less damage omg very nice for pvp but sadly also nerfs us for pve and we don't need pve nerfs we need better single target dps spec for pve and better aoe one tanking ones fine.
•Bravery: Ranking up this power now affects Run Speed (+15% at max rank), but the Deflect bonus has been reduced to +8% at max rank. (-2% dodge but run speed bug fix no big)
•Known issue: The first rank of this power currently grants significantly more Deflect than intended.
•Crescendo: This power now grants CC immunity while active. ( PVP BUFF)
•Slam: The damage from this power has been reduced; it had previously done too much damage for its area of effect, duration, and utility, and the intent is to change its focus mostly to utility.
•The initial cast now interupts targets, and while slowed, affected targets now deal -15% damage (at max rank). )(MEGA PVP BUFF Inrtupt and 15% less damage)
•The power now shows its max estimated damage rather than its per-tick value, and per-tick damage has been reduced by 60%. (most GWF that's 500-600 per tick so now it be like 250 damage tick sucks for pve but no big for pvp)
Rank ups now provide 1 additional second rather than 2. (No Big few Sec less most time its up b4 its finished in pve)
•Steadfast Determination: This is now properly affected by bonuses to Determination.(grate fix More single target DPS when needed specially with new set)
•Feat: Endless Assault: This feat now properly affects Punishing Charge. (Punishing Charge 2/4/6% more dps no big)
•Feat: Focused Destroyer: The tooltip has had a minor update for accuracy.
•Feat: Master of Arms: The max Deflect bonus that this feat can provide has been reduced by 33% (1% deflect lose yes that's all 1%).
•Feat: Master of Arms: The first rank of this feat no longer grants a double bonus.
•Feat: Unstoppable Action: The feat no longer incorrectly increases Action Point gain for longer than expected after using Unstoppable.
•Feat: Unstoppable Recovery: The tooltip has been updated to properly state that this feat heals the player.
So all in all Very nice pvp buff so all the people going gwf nerf aka Trolling tr we know who you are and your wrong as all ways its pvp buff and pve nerf,
what gwf needs
is the other specs to make a difference and really its bad for every one if these slam changes go head 15% less damage omg very nice for pvp but sadly also nerfs us for pve and we don't need pve nerfs we need better single target dps spec for pve and better aoe one tanking ones fine.
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I haven't been on the preview shard but maxed WMS + Feat = +15% deflect chance. When you reduce by 33% you lose 4.95% deflect.
Unless they did something differently. I'd be interested in a screen shot or maybe more clarification.
Edit: Just hopped on the preview shard and Master of Arms is now 2% for a max of 10% deflection. We lost 5% deflection as I thought.
Double Edit: Bravery at max rank was 15% deflect. With the change we now lose 7% deflect.
So for deflection we lose 7% fixed deflection (bravery) and 5% buffed deflection (weapon master strike + master of arms).
On live I was at 33.2% (campire buff included) compared to 25.7% on the preview shard. Going from deflecting 1 in 3 vs 1 in 4 attacks is pretty huge.
I could gain more deflection if I went for the titan set instead of the 4 pc tier 1 pvp set. But it depends on whether you think the extra offensive stats and 10% heal (3350, for me, plus 1675 unstoppable recovery) is worth it.
They tweaked it, they didn't improve it.
It greatly affect my PVE content which is the only viable place for lone GWF to shine, their are 3 aspect of this game, PVP, Dungeon and PVE Content and before you comment take consideration of all those 3 and not only dungeon and PVP.
The majority of these changes are stupid as the TR ones. I'm against most of these, and I am against most of the TR changes also. The games a lot better balanced than people think, and the balance issues that are a problem, have less to do with classes and more to do with certain elements people want to ignore for some reason.
It almost seems to me like changes being made are not by the same people who designed the classes to begin with, or they would make more sense. Changes should make the game better not worse.
What's the point of nerfing survivability of the tank specc? How does this make the GWF more desirable in PvE? Slam damage nerf? Nerfing our one good ability is just HAMSTER.
Do *something* to make this class more desirable in PvE, like higher target cap (at least 10) for all skills, faster avalanche animation, FIX Unstopabble bug (which keeps getting worse after each patch, currently it can be broken in both PvE and PvP and doesn't make u immune to CC, after this nice patch it'll outright kill you).
Best solution is probably just remove the class, return all our AD spent on it and let us re-roll in peace. Or rename it barbarian and make it single target dps to compete with rogue. Currently its obvious you cannot find a place for it in PvE.
"The Great Weapon Fighter is an unstoppable force of damage and steel, skilled in using the weight of a greatsword to dispatch those that stand in the way. The epitome of strength, the Great Weapon Fighter is also resilient enough to defend allies in need."
This class relies on brute strength alone to overcome the enemies. They are warriors who sacrifice shields in favor of large two-handed weapons. While mainly being an offensive class, Great Weapon Fighters still have considerable defense by carrying scale armour.
When fighting the main bosses in dungeons, usually the best role for the Great Weapon Fighter is to focus on the main boss. The Guardian Fighter uses agro spells to get all the mobs. The Control Wizard pushes then off of the Guardian Fighter and helps kill them, the Cleric heals the party. If mobs start to pile up on you, run to the Guardian Fighter to lose them.
I'd love to get clarification on what a GWF is supposed to be/do in groups. More utility/less durability seems to run away from this description fast.