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Why filling out surveys for Zen is a bad idea

fusedmassfusedmass Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 252 Bounty Hunter
edited August 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
This is like on facebook, or mocco. You fill out survery by a third person for penny s on the dollar. We are giving away our personal information just for a mere handfull of Zen. If this company truly cares about privacy they they wouldn't do this. This company is already showering in money with the zen store. Why the need to give out our entire information to stranger for a chance at a few zen. Surly you can afford keep our privacy protected.

I have seen thee things before. Next thing I'm going get spam for an unknown source in return for 15 zen. I don't think its worth it, at all. This is one of very very few games, asks you fill out surverys. If your company needs money badly to pay the large checks at owners, i could send some money instead.
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  • valdariousvaldarious Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    That is one of the inherent bad things about Facebook. All those little games and surveys people do on Facebook is just data mining. One of the reasons I deactivated my account on there, too much drama and data mining for my tastes.
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  • sasheriasasheria Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    fusedmass wrote: »
    This is like on facebook, or mocco. You fill out survery by a third person for penny s on the dollar. We are giving away our personal information just for a mere handfull of Zen. If this company truly cares about privacy they they wouldn't do this. This company is already showering in money with the zen store. Why the need to give out our entire information to stranger for a chance at a few zen. Surly you can afford keep our privacy protected.

    I have seen thee things before. Next thing I'm going get spam for an unknown source in return for 15 zen. I don't think its worth it, at all. This is one of very very few games, asks you fill out surverys. If your company needs money badly to pay the large checks at owners, i could send some money instead.

    It is true, but to some, giving away person info is better than spending actual money. Granted, that giving your personal data is like spending money, but it is matter of perception.
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  • aaronjfaaronjf Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Best thing to do is the surveys that don't require personal info. I have had pretty bad luck though w/ the stuff here though. I have done many surveys all to get the the end then magically be "disqualified". I understand getting kicked right off the bat but after a 15 minute survey w/ a butt load of questions then basically a thanks for all the info, you are not qualified. Best deal I got for free zen was filling out an app for the discover card. "Free" 6700 zen or so to have a back up credit card.
  • ironzerg79ironzerg79 Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,942 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I use to fill out these surveys until I realized I was getting literally $.11 per hour in free zen. If I was in a hurry and saw a dime on the pavement, I'd probably keep walking. Same thing with these surveys. You'll make more zen searching the couch cushions for lose change than wasting time on these things.
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  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Peanut labs and sponsor pay are 3rd party options to earn zen who crytic aren't directly involved with. I agree that giving away your info is more valuable than the zen you receive. Some people like the options though. Personally I like the vids on there that give you zen. Sponsorpay used to supply them to me too but don't anymore ):.
  • azlanfoxazlanfox Member Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    It is best not to share your personal information with any of these third party survey mills. They are data mining specifically for our personal information, in many cases to sell for advertising to their partners, or in a few cases for less desirable reasons.

    I would also limit the amount of information you give to PWE, especially billing information. I contacted the organization directly to gain some insight on the use of personal information (per applicable state law) and the traffic of said data between Perfect World Entertainment and Perfect World Beijing. They refused on both cases to discuss the matter at all. So I urge you to be careful, I can only assume the worst case that full disclosure of data is handed in its entirety to PW Beijing. A concern for any person in Europe or the United States as the Chinese Intelligence service collects and performs surveillance on ALL internet data that pass, both ways, through Chinese ISPs. Transactions are encrypted, but information in databases are specifically targeted and they possess the manpower to assemble the captured data, sift it for specifics, and collect it to use however they see fit.
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  • brandyyyybrandyyyy Member Posts: 70
    edited August 2013
    I am a psychology student. A big prob with ppl taking surveys (especially online) is they just click anything or make up false info or give me thier dogs name to get a reward.
  • whoregutwhoregut Banned Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Never give out personal information. G-Potato does the same thing and I have heard rumors that the information was used to steal identities. Also, a lot of these 3rd parties won't give you the zen. They take down your basic personal information then tell you that you aren't eligible. Now you are out your personal information and zen. Can't forget that the companies, including Perfect World, does not care how the information is use. Never give out personal information to a third party.
  • brandyyyybrandyyyy Member Posts: 70
    edited August 2013
    you need to roleplay and invent characters that are believeable for them....
  • lostmarblesherelostmarbleshere Banned Users Posts: 654 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    *****gut wrote: »
    Never give out personal information. G-Potato does the same thing and I have heard rumors that the information was used to steal identities. Also, a lot of these 3rd parties won't give you the zen. They take down your basic personal information then tell you that you aren't eligible. Now you are out your personal information and zen. Can't forget that the companies, including Perfect World, does not care how the information is use. Never give out personal information to a third party.

    It just makes me sick to know that PW does this. What does PW do with my info i give them? If they are just one step away with these datamining companies what stops them from selling out the info they have on me already?
  • digesthisicknessdigesthisickness Member Posts: 169 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    I went three years with no virus or red showing up at all when scanning my comp, and for the first time, had 18 show up yesterday. The ONLY thing I've done differently is the offers for free zen. They can keep it.
  • whoregutwhoregut Banned Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    lostmarbleshere wrote: »
    It just makes me sick to know that PW does this. What does PW do with my info i give them? If they are just one step away with these datamining companies what stops them from selling out the info they have on me already?

    In short. Nothing. Unfortunately there is a lot of legal desorption

    Think of it as a dollar bill. It starts in one place and keeps moving till it is removed from the system. Companies says they don't give out your information, this is true and a lie. What they can do is give it to an affiliate who can give it to another affiliate. On and on this goes. Peanut Lab is like a mall. It just brings together a bunch of business in once place and rents them space. Some of these business are trustworthy, but most aren't. Believe or not, but your personal information has already been given out. Yup, "Perfect World" has given out your information to their affiliates already.

    What to do? Don't give out personal information to a third party. If you are bold enough to do so, take a page from Dungeons and Dragons, Rope play.....

    The free Zen isn't worth the identity thief or computer corruption.
  • dezstravusdezstravus Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Hey Everyone,

    If you have feedback you would like to share with us about the OfferWall, I encourage you to fill out this survey. Creating a program like this to provide players with opportunities for free Zen is still a new venture for us, so we are definitely interested in hearing your thoughts.

    Survey Link: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WC7W5FK

    Also, a quick clarification: we (Perfect World/Cryptic) don't capture any of the information that comes from the surveys you fill out; we only fulfill the free Zen that is earned once we receive confirmation that an account completed an offer or survey successfully. The information that is submitted only goes to the party that is hosting the offer/survey. Peanut Labs provides offers and surveys for many different partners, so you can pick and choose the ones you like based on your preferences.

    Thank you for trying it out and sharing your thoughts with us!
  • whoregutwhoregut Banned Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    dezstravus wrote: »
    Hey Everyone,


    Also, a quick clarification: we (Perfect World/Cryptic) don't capture any of the information that comes from the surveys you fill out; we only fulfill the free Zen that is earned once we receive confirmation that an account completed an offer or survey successfully. The information that is submitted only goes to the party that is hosting the offer/survey. Peanut Labs provides offers and surveys for many different partners, so you can pick and choose the ones you like based on your preferences.

    Thank you for trying it out and sharing your thoughts with us!

    In short, you can't be held responsible for what Peanut Lab or another third party does with your personal information. Use at your own risks.
  • nick1sternnick1stern Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 330 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    You do realise that you can use a fake email a fake name a fake address and they
    peanut labs has no way of knowing you do not have to give any real information.

    if te issue is viruses and maleware well if you do not know how to protect
    your compter then maybe you should avoid them.

    Thanks for the free Zen Cryptic.
  • nwnghostnwnghost Member, Moderators, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    My main issue is that even when I turn off all adblockers, popupblockers, tracking protectors AND my firewall, AV AND allow all cookies, still only 5-8% of PeanutLab surveys even track and they have NEVER credited me after submitting a ticket with confirmation emails or even gotten back to me.

    Compare that to SponsorPay where 20% of stuff you do tracks, but they will ALWAYS credit you within 1 week for any tickets you submit with proof.

    Still, I prefer SuperRewards the most (they cover another MMO I play) where you get about 20-25% tracking and ALWAYS crediting you within about 3 days AND they understand that you don't always get confirmation emails from some of the offers, so description of what you filled out is sufficient for crediting too.
    Oh, and they usually pay the most gamecash per survey than any other company. PeanutLabs and PayByShopping are the worst payers out there.
  • michaelpoynermichaelpoyner Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 75
    edited August 2013
    I do surveys all the time with perfectworld, you actually give out your personal information? haha what an idiot.
    I make stuff up all the time.
    fusedmass wrote: »
    This is like on facebook, or mocco. You fill out survery by a third person for penny s on the dollar. We are giving away our personal information just for a mere handfull of Zen. If this company truly cares about privacy they they wouldn't do this. This company is already showering in money with the zen store. Why the need to give out our entire information to stranger for a chance at a few zen. Surly you can afford keep our privacy protected.

    I have seen thee things before. Next thing I'm going get spam for an unknown source in return for 15 zen. I don't think its worth it, at all. This is one of very very few games, asks you fill out surverys. If your company needs money badly to pay the large checks at owners, i could send some money instead.
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