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Is this event ok for folks that have not grouped before?

kwequakwequa Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited August 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
My treatments are not scheduled tonight. My daughter might try it and I'm thinking of it. GWF and I'm a TR. Beholder..I gather ques are long or something?
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  • akeetlebeetleakeetlebeetle Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Yes, my wife and I have not grouped before and we did just fine. Composition of group doesn't matter.

    Queues were ~30min on Dragon.

    Good luck!
  • kwequakwequa Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Thank you. :cool:
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  • sockmunkeysockmunkey Member Posts: 4,622 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    The scaling seems to work pretty well. Got into a group tonight. I was a poorly geared level 60 DC. The rest of the party consisted of 2 rogues and a CW ranging from 20 to 45. The Tank was level 6. Needless to say, I expected to be a dead Munkey.

    Granted the tank had a hard time holding agro, that was to be expected. But no one died, including myself. And the rest of the party still managed to contribute decently to the fight.

    All in all, for such a wide range in levels. Everything still ran pretty well. I never felt like the lower level players where dragging anything down. As a CO vet used to the rage and anger at having lower levels join alerts and being perceived dead weight. I have to say, Cryptic has really improved here. The run was no where near the disaster I was expecting. It actually went pretty well.
  • knightfalzknightfalz Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    It's interesting to hear that it is well designed to accommodate a wide disparity in character level. Aside from the initial queue issues, the developers have done a pretty good job with this event then.
  • selaskhanselaskhan Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    easy to get into and easy on random groups also, approx 10min wait on queue on Dragon.
  • dutchy47dutchy47 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Is the loot based on how well you did? Or is it randomised. I have not been able to figure it out.
  • b100d31fb100d31f Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    When you say "how well you did" well means? No deaths, amount of dmg, amount of heals. Surely different class's will rank differently and do "weller" then others. I'm positive its pure randomness.

    After all I never see an overall statistic there on the score thing-a-majigger (x)
  • powereddjinnpowereddjinn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    The loot in the chest is random!
    Not based of how the 'x' you do or dont....
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  • dutchy47dutchy47 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Okay, steady on... I didn't know. Just wondering...
  • axer128axer128 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Yea. It's ultra easy.

    A high geared lvl60 could easily solo it, if they allowed that.

    No way to fail it: you die you respawn back at a camp a few feet away and can run back to the battle.
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  • axer128axer128 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    sockmunkey wrote: »
    The scaling seems to work pretty well. Got into a group tonight. I was a poorly geared level 60 DC. The rest of the party consisted of 2 rogues and a CW ranging from 20 to 45. The Tank was level 6. Needless to say, I expected to be a dead Munkey.

    Granted the tank had a hard time holding agro, that was to be expected. But no one died, including myself. And the rest of the party still managed to contribute decently to the fight.

    All in all, for such a wide range in levels. Everything still ran pretty well. I never felt like the lower level players where dragging anything down. As a CO vet used to the rage and anger at having lower levels join alerts and being perceived dead weight. I have to say, Cryptic has really improved here. The run was no where near the disaster I was expecting. It actually went pretty well.

    On the other end of the spectrum - it's insanely boring and way too easy for any decent geared lvl60s.

    The mobs are just a pile of hitpoints that deal no real damage. I purposely agro'd the entire map and tanked it on my CW just fine with no heals.
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  • vrtesseractvrtesseract Member Posts: 631 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    its a really well done event. the waves are actually a bit slower than the normal skirmish and there are 3 chests to loot between waves. if you die just release and run back in. i saw a level 18 out dps 3 level 60s so scaling is very good and level doesnt matter.

    keep in mind this skirmish is the lowest skirmish in the game and a test run of call to arms, im sure if they get to the higher level skirmishes like the black dragon that require tactics to beat you will feel "challenged"
  • sockmunkeysockmunkey Member Posts: 4,622 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Yea, Ill remember the folks who cry too easy on this one. When we one day see "Call to Arms: Battle for the Bridge"

    Yea, admittedly, it is a bit easy. But that has always been Cryptic's style. Better to be easy and inclusive, then so frustratingly hard that no one plays it. This is, after all, only a fun diversion type event. I don't expect it was ever meant to be any kind of challenge.
  • parp12parp12 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Tried it on a level 11 gf (I was the highest level). By the end only my head wasn't red. The level 6 cleric's healing amounted to the odd astral seal. Taunting was pointless as my guard was broken in about 1 second followed a dirt nap. One shotted a lot. Not fun. Tried it on a 60 cleric, boring. Back to logging in to craft and invoke for me.
  • jackomarajackomara Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    vrtesseract wrote: »
    keep in mind this skirmish is the lowest skirmish in the game

    Blacklake is actually the lowest skirmish, if we're being picky...
  • captfranciscaptfrancis Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I see it as a nice easy test run and it's only for the weekend so if you get bored with it... don't bother with it. It'll be gone in another day.

    I have to give them credit for the level-less mobs, they do seem to be working nicely. It's kind of weird to be picking up level 16 and level 60 loot on a level 50 character but the NPC vendor doesn't mind it one bit. lol

    And since I bankrupted myself of all gold by leveling professions, I'll take it.
  • bioshrikebioshrike Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,729 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    A similar implementation exists with Champions Online's Alert system. It auto-sidekicks players to a given level. As long as a player has the basic stuff in their build, things go ok. The problem, IMO, is that they should have restricted it to level 10 and above - so all participants have their class ability, at the very least. A lot also depends upon which team member, if any, is of a low level. On teams where I never saw an astral seal or the cleric using divine mode, things were a bit tougher than those where I did notice those things.

    A slightly higher minimum level requirement would also deter people from rolling new alts to just leech off higher level players in these events.
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  • lonnehartlonnehart Member Posts: 846 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    bioshrike wrote: »
    AThe problem, IMO, is that they should have restricted it to level 10 and above - so all participants have their class ability, at the very least.

    Yep. Been in there. Seen a few players who wanted the Alerts restricted to max level characters, though.. which didn't make sense because they were for gaining XP, which max level characters don't need and can't use.


    I'm glad I'm not seeing max level players demanding it here, though it is a (small) possibility.
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  • bioshrikebioshrike Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,729 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    lonnehart wrote: »
    Yep. Been in there. Seen a few players who wanted the Alerts restricted to max level characters, though.. which didn't make sense because they were for gaining XP, which max level characters don't need and can't use.


    I'm glad I'm not seeing max level players demanding it here, though it is a (small) possibility.

    Well, I think max level is overkill, but if we're talking Champions Online, it should have been restricted to when you get all 3 of your super stats - level 15-ish.

    Here, with some class abilities being extremely important, (like divine mode or stealth), can make or break a class in terms of performance. Not having them, (or even not having all 3 of your encounter slots), can severely hamper how a class functions.
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  • lonnehartlonnehart Member Posts: 846 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    bioshrike wrote: »
    Well, I think max level is overkill, but if we're talking Champions Online, it should have been restricted to when you get all 3 of your super stats - level 15-ish.

    I agree with that much. It's harder at lower levels and sometimes you become a liability to the PUG (Pick Up Group) you find yourself in.

    What level would be best for Neverwinter's Call to Arms skirmishes?
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  • bioshrikebioshrike Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,729 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    lonnehart wrote: »
    I agree with that much. It's harder at lower levels and sometimes you become a liability to the PUG (Pick Up Group) you find yourself in.

    What level would be best for Neverwinter's Call to Arms skirmishes?

    Level 10. You have your class ability and, I think, at least 2 encounters and 1 passive slot.

    That reminds me... does anyone have a good chart detailing what is unlocked as you progress in level?
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