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Rogues are OP, get that nerf bat.
slaadar
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Oh wait just kidding. Has anyone actually extensively played dungeons or PvP?
Sure, Rogues can output massive dps, but all it takes is one force choke and bye bye.
So really think before you start complaining about your rogue being so easy, or how op they are. If you haven't hit 60 and started T2 Dungeons, please stop. Just stop posting anything involving rogues being op.
Rogue is a striker, they output dps, that's pretty much it. They have some cc abilities (which btw don't actually stun or knock anyone prone) ((daze only stuns mobs, even then only normal mobs not bosses)). Which means you have to actually think about your positioning and who to target in dungeons, it's not a "HEY LOOK I CAN JUST KILL EVERYTHING" situation, sure you can bum-rush some dungeons, T1 of course. But at T2, you will die if you're out of position, you will die if you don't take the right skill set, and in fact you will get out-dps'ed if you have no idea what you are doing.
So please, stop making Rogues are OP. I have a 60 rogue with over 8.3k GS, and I wish, I honestly wished I had rolled a GF, CW, or DC. (Sorry GWF y'all in a heap of trouble right now).
So unless people here actually have a lvl 60 rogue running consistent T2 dungeons, or have played like 200 or more pvp matches, please stop posting Rogue's are OP, before more information and data is released.
Thank you.
Sure, Rogues can output massive dps, but all it takes is one force choke and bye bye.
So really think before you start complaining about your rogue being so easy, or how op they are. If you haven't hit 60 and started T2 Dungeons, please stop. Just stop posting anything involving rogues being op.
Rogue is a striker, they output dps, that's pretty much it. They have some cc abilities (which btw don't actually stun or knock anyone prone) ((daze only stuns mobs, even then only normal mobs not bosses)). Which means you have to actually think about your positioning and who to target in dungeons, it's not a "HEY LOOK I CAN JUST KILL EVERYTHING" situation, sure you can bum-rush some dungeons, T1 of course. But at T2, you will die if you're out of position, you will die if you don't take the right skill set, and in fact you will get out-dps'ed if you have no idea what you are doing.
So please, stop making Rogues are OP. I have a 60 rogue with over 8.3k GS, and I wish, I honestly wished I had rolled a GF, CW, or DC. (Sorry GWF y'all in a heap of trouble right now).
So unless people here actually have a lvl 60 rogue running consistent T2 dungeons, or have played like 200 or more pvp matches, please stop posting Rogue's are OP, before more information and data is released.
Thank you.
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I mostly aggree with this but Good TR are op but there is enough bad ones to balance that out. Dazing strike makes more sense if you get hit by it and you see your entire bar get blocked out for 5-6 seconds. In this time you can not shift/tab/atwill/encounter. That is more then likely why mobs just stand there.
lawl look it's the guy that "gets paid to pvp"
When a class devoted to kiting comes out (i.e. ARCHER RANGER) you can expect rogues to be obsolete except for disabling traps.
at the moment i need to drink multiple potions in single dungeons or forge maps, sometimes up to 20.
the TR has two big problems:
NO real AoE attack, he has two abilitys, one encounter that settles you down, so you are vulnerable, deals low damage.
The other one is his Daily, this one is nice, but as all the other dailys it takes some tine until you can use it.
his second problem is his defense. because he has no aoe, he cant fight groups so well. Greatsword or Defender fighters can take some damage AND fight multiple enemys with the normal attack.
Rogue only has high single target damage.
also if the main target focuses the rogue, he is dead if he has no potions.
and the beginning he is strong, but as soon as you get your first companion, his becomes very hard to play.
Funny you say that, a different thread talks about how you can build a rogue to be always stealthed, and never leave it, while attacking dungeon boss who ignores you for 20 minutes. If that's not OP, i don't know what is.
So because your class sucks (and that is still up in the air) so we should just nerf other classes? WOW just WOW.
That's why CWs and TRs work together so well. It's hard to kite a rogue when you are being force choked.
It's kind of obvious the nerf things that are out of balance.
Rogues character as are able to consistently kill without being seen at all in PvP. This has to end. The moment they attack, they need to be visible. When they stop attacking, then let them hide again, but the continuous un-defensible no risk attack is the reason so many -people dislike PvP in this game.
I would've agreed with the concept of "when attacking be visible" but if you take the stealth from the rogue, he has nothing. The one high damage skill is not enough on any strong class, others are barely to shave some hp. A rogue can run after a GWF for 10 minutes and he will still survive sometimes.
Gwf wait until level 35 before that you are nothing
U don't know how to dodge dazing strike, u don't know how to play. Like duelist flurry, this skill is only usefull against gwf or gf because even if they are good players they can't dodge it.
Learn to play first, then u can post. Sry dude but too many noobs posts on this forum and I don't wanna noobs rules the world.
U say "good TRs are op". A good NaaB should say "good players are op"
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The guy said the TR is OP 3 months ago.
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