GWF Flourish lunge tactic, exploit or not? [Video]

llantiss · August 2013

First accidently discovered it when flourishing off the mushrooms @ GG npc area, later figured it can be used as an escape or a cap method in PVP, been trying to nail the right angle.

Watch this Backcap attempt, no one even expects you to go up from that side when the game starts.

What do you think?

erikiki1 · August 2013

omg. i just tried it and ive been flying around protector's enclave lol

edit: sometimes my jumps are short, sometimes VERY long dont know how i made it

chudovishye · August 2013

I think that team needs to pay attention to their point meter...

dank65 · August 2013

Pretty cool but I would have to say this should be fixed if no other class can do this then I would say its an unfair advantage ie exploit or unintended effect that was never intended in game...:cool:

llantiss · August 2013

Just want to add, this can be done with rogue aswell

abombination247 · August 2013

Interesting.. funny vid. Never seen a leap like that before. You have anything with a rogue doing it?

durandurahan · August 2013

LOL.... that is so cool. I will try that now...

diogene0 · August 2013

Stupid, yes, done by a game-breaking class with completely OP spells, yes. But hardly an exploits. It's not like you jumped to areas you're not supposed to see. That's just very poor class balance design. My favourite moment is the very begining of the video: you really try to find every hole in the geometry. I guess your guild deserve the reputation it has.

Anyway, no way we get a balanced pvp without a mega nerf to the class.

f1nalf1ght · August 2013

after 10 minutes of experimentation i was able to get underneath protector's enclave with this, theres definately potential for nasty terrain abuse here.

pando83 · August 2013

Happened to me in a PvP mach. I used Flourish and went fling just like Superman. May be it can be exploited. Should be fixed. Report it in the bug section.

nwnghost · August 2013

I have no idea how you even do that. My char won't lunge at a mob that is even barely outside the normal range of Flourish and just stand there and have the skill go on cooldown

mbllanes199 · August 2013

Developer has intended the skill to be like that, why are you saying it is bug, as if they havent tested this themselves, gonna be superman when i get back home and see the river of tears from above, LMAO.

erikiki1 · August 2013

my longest jump record: the cliff going to last boss on spellplague straight to the end lol

mbllanes199 · August 2013

erikiki1 wrote: »

my longest jump record: the cliff going to last boss on spellplague straight to the end lol

Now you are talking, LOL.

f1nalf1ght · August 2013

jumping update: the tent on the AH platform is great for this, you can jump to/over just about any building you can see. try using mighty leap to get even greater "ups."

digesthisickness · August 2013

Yeah, I don't get which buttons you're pushing or what you're doing there exactly. Wish I did, I'd try it with mine. Looks very fun. My flourish just lunges. Don't know what a rogue would use to do it either.

f1nalf1ght · August 2013

digesthisickness wrote: »

Yeah, I don't get which buttons you're pushing or what you're doing there exactly. Wish I did, I'd try it with mine. Looks very fun. My flourish just lunges. Don't know what a rogue would use to do it either.

you use flourish right on the edge of a surface that would cause your character to be falling, even if it would be an extremely short fall. this can be either an upward angle, downward angle, or sometimes a flat surface, and each of them will give a different result. it seems likely that flourish's forward momentum is carried into the falling animation, and propels you forward at rocket speed!

keep in mind that the distance you flourish from your falling point also impacts your jump. being further away from the fall gives you a greater arc and longer air time, being closer propels you faster and typically further, but you gain almost no altitude.

Edit: i spent quite a bit of time trying to use this trick to get over the GG gates before the event actually starts. i eventually found a way to do it, but it turns out you can do the same thing just by using mighty leap ><

digesthisickness · August 2013

f1nalf1ght wrote: »

you use flourish right on the edge of a surface that would cause your character to be falling, even if it would be an extremely short fall. this can be either an upward angle, downward angle, or sometimes a flat surface, and each of them will give a different result. it seems likely that flourish's forward momentum is carried into the falling animation, and propels you forward at rocket speed!

keep in mind that the distance you flourish from your falling point also impacts your jump. being further away from the fall gives you a greater arc and longer air time, being closer propels you faster and typically further, but you gain almost no altitude.

Edit: i spent quite a bit of time trying to use this trick to get over the GG gates before the event actually starts. i eventually found a way to do it, but it turns out you can do the same thing just by using mighty leap ><

Ha!

Thanks! So glad you let me know. I'll be playing with this for a while.

f1nalf1ght · August 2013

i respecced my gwf to tighten up my feat selections just now, and since any gwf build has 15 or more open power points, i tossed 3 of my leftovers into punishing charge. turns out this power is an order of magnitude better for launching than flourish, im getting sometimes twice the distance with punishing charge on the same jump vs flourish. i expect you could easily jump from the bridge in hotenow dom all the way to the enemy point, or even further.

digesthisickness · August 2013

f1nalf1ght wrote: »

i respecced my gwf to tighten up my feat selections just now, and since any gwf build has 15 or more open power points, i tossed 3 of my leftovers into punishing charge. turns out this power is an order of magnitude better for launching than flourish, im getting sometimes twice the distance with punishing charge on the same jump vs flourish. i expect you could easily jump from the bridge in hotenow dom all the way to the enemy point, or even further.

Heh. This is awesome. I'd have to respec to get punishing charge. I suspect that I'd do it about four seconds before they decide, "Oh HELL NO. *NERF*"

gctrl · August 2013

llantiss wrote: »

First accidently discovered it when flourishing off the mushrooms @ GG npc area, later figured it can be used as an escape or a cap method in PVP, been trying to nail the right angle.

Watch this Backcap attempt, no one even expects you to go up from that side when the game starts.

What do you think?

Lol, this actually looks quite fun, epic mobility

getoneshot · August 2013

Oh look, another "bug" Lantis and his exploiting guild "accidentally discovered." What a surprise.

meeggtoast · August 2013

he didnt discover it and if he did he made it public, but the bug was already known by couple of people.

cybliss · August 2013

f1nalf1ght wrote: »

i respecced my gwf to tighten up my feat selections just now, and since any gwf build has 15 or more open power points, i tossed 3 of my leftovers into punishing charge. turns out this power is an order of magnitude better for launching than flourish, im getting sometimes twice the distance with punishing charge on the same jump vs flourish. i expect you could easily jump from the bridge in hotenow dom all the way to the enemy point, or even further.

But punishing charge is not practical in pvp, just saying :P

f1nalf1ght · August 2013

cybliss wrote: »

But punishing charge is not practical in pvp, just saying :P

yeah, it's awful. you can power switch while its first charge is on cooldown though, if you were looking for a more reliable jump skill to start a match with or something. i think the best use for it is probobly terrain glitching in pve.

GWF Flourish lunge tactic, exploit or not? [Video]

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