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sogronnwosogronnwo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 96
edited July 2013 in PvE Discussion
Howdy!

PvP itemization for Clerics go like this:

- dinged 60, bought T1 off AH, got steamrolled in PvP
- endured steamroll and got glory PvP gear, still got steamrolled, since Life steal is a joke on healer (main role?) DC
- farmed max power T2 and T2,5 weapons (12,6k GS) to max hps and dmg output, got steamrolled
- farmed Miracle Healer set to max burst healing, still got steamrolled
- looked at GG PvP gear, saw it had life steal too, got fed up

- rolled a GWF to see what the Sentinel craze was all about, dinged 60, bought 2*T1 and 2*T2 tank gear with regen accessories, and slotted rank 6 enchants (NO Tenebs) and ruled like the kings of old in PuG PvP, even held my ground against premades until 3+ members coordinated against me or someone with Tenebs showed up.

- had a feeling that regen had to do more with the survivability than deflect, since my DC has a lot of heals and damage reductions to fill the shoes of 50% deflect chance.

- went back to my cleric, bought blue regen gear, rerolled charisma to constitution and enchanted HP instead of defense. The result is a 29k HP, 2,2k defense, 1600 regen DC with <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> crit and recovery but still somewhat of a nice power due to ancient weapon set with power enchants (no meaningful main and offhand with regen out there). NO Tenebs on this character either, but it does have rank 7 enchants instead of 6s.
NOW WE'RE TALKING! I mean it's still not a Sent GWF but my God this is fun! I can actually survive stuff, I don't get 1shotted by most Lashing Blades (I even saw some TRs baffled when they hit me with the usual 24k+ and I still walked, they went around a circle before they realised they have to engage me further, so much fun :D ), and I can survive the CC train of the other classes, sometimes from even more than 1 of them. 2 coordinated guys or 1 top-geared PvE damage dealer still hands my Axx to me, but they at least do it over a longer period of time instead of the 2-3 seconds I was used to. I could actually 1v1 some people as a healer, WOOOO! That's a first!

If only I knew from the beginning to skip PvP gear or 12,6k PvE gear, and go straight for 60 blue gear with regen!

I'd like to achieve 2 things with this post.
First thing is to warn other DCs. If you're a fresh 60 DC, or a 60 DC with any gear that struggles in PuG PvP, never mind any purples other than weapon and shirts/pants, just go to the AH and buy the blue regen gear on any slot you can for 300-500 AD a piece. Nope, I didn't miss the "k" from there, they are hundreds of AD, not hundreds of thousands. The best in slot PvP gear for a DC is buyable off the AH for pennies. Go and get it guys, it's dirt cheap to try and it pays back in your first PvP match (provided it's not against a premade) with some long overdue success!

Second thing is, if this reaches any developer, please change the lifesteal on the PvP sets to regen (or add a set that has it), and make accessories for PvP so we can have purple regen jewelry too.
It feels really silly that I have to equip these blues because they are better for PvP than any purple available for the DC in the game.
Well, either this, or balance damage on Dominion maps so regen and HP aren't the only viable PvP stats...

Thanks for reading!

P.S.: Sry if this all have been mentioned before, sry for my english and sry for the wall of text, I'm just so pumped!
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    gexenngexenn Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 121 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Yah... sadly I have to agree with you. My main is a DC and as I focus on party support in pvp I am just a punching bag (unless I go with guildees who have enough brains to protect me and I keep them alive in return :) ). Life steal is silly for a class that does least dmg of all, especially when most of the time you are just running around waiting for your cooldowns to finish... I would love to see regen on set items :(.
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    gctrlgctrl Member Posts: 459 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    sogronnwo wrote: »
    PvP itemization for Clerics go like this

    PvP itemization is dependent on how you want to build/play your class. It's not a fixed thing that you can just post and say, "This is what DC's have to use in PvP".
    sogronnwo wrote: »
    Well, either this, or balance damage on Dominion maps so regen and HP aren't the only viable PvP stats...

    Well, they aren't the only viable stats so not sure what you're talking about, they might be the only viable stats for how you're trying to play your char but that doesn't apply to every other DC.
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    sogronnwosogronnwo Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 96
    edited July 2013
    G-man!

    I represented the support healing role, not the glass cannon one, and the low-budget population, not the rank 10 and perfect enchantment with greater Tenebs build about which i admittedly know zero things. Also PuG PvP, not premade vs. PuG, which I don't find fun from either side's perspective.

    Sorry if I wasn't clear about those, I indeed only wanted to share how I made my DC somewhat effective at what I wanted to do with it.

    I felt the need to share because I played PuG PvP for 2 weeks now (mostly GWF), and the amount of successful DC plays I've seen in this role in that timeframe were single digit (not that there were many DCs playing altogether...)
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    diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 2,894 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    You can do well with a full miracle healer set/ancient gear too. You found a build you like, that's great, but it doesn't mean all DCs have to do this. Yes, sometimes; i get badly hit, but i can kick some asses too, heal myself, the team, get kills, and dodge when it's getting dangerous.

    By the way, life steal doesn't suck, but it's mainly a pve/linked spirit stat. Useful for some builds.
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    gctrlgctrl Member Posts: 459 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    sogronnwo wrote: »
    G-man!

    I represented the support healing role, not the glass cannon one, and the low-budget population, not the rank 10 and perfect enchantment with greater Tenebs build about which i admittedly know zero things.

    Right, but I think you're skipping a lot of the spectrum here, there are many different builds out there, including hybrid builds (dps/healing), builds that require unique stat balance. Not to mention that if you are part of the low-budget population everything that is above that is a different budget population. It's not like you're either super poor or super rich.
    sogronnwo wrote: »
    I indeed only wanted to share how I made my DC somewhat effective at what I wanted to do with it.

    Exactly :) Perhaps a better title would be "Cleric PvP: Viable Support Healing" or something.
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