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neverwinter1776neverwinter1776 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited August 2013 in The Foundry
Please do NOT move this to the Preview Section as this is meant to get people on board here to see what might be coming and get them to GO try out the Preview

Ok, I got on the Preview server to see what the changes were. And there were some BIG ones, but also, still sorely missing some vital things.

Now the "vital " things are only my opinion, I'm sure everyone has their own list,

And NOTE: I don't know how much will stay in the patch, how much more may be added etc.

So that out of the way, here goes: This is JUST my first glance and impressions

GOOD: Free camera Mode
BAD: Free Camera Mode has collisions (didn't see a way to turn that of other than the old method of mouse hunting)
GOOD: Integrated Library assets in 3D edit. Assets window pops up on the right to add any of the assets directly in 3D mode
BAD: NOPE, the above is ALL GOOD.
GOOD:Most all Assets are clickable and movable in 3D edit mode
BAD: Not a big bad, but when moving NPCs they leave a ghost and do not retain their animation, rather they default to the costume "stance"
GOOD:Elven Assets
BAD: No NEW Doors, no additional WALLS, no FLOORS, and one elven WINDOW (At least give us some small sticks and glass so we can make our own)
GOOD: More animations? (Not really had the time to see if there were any)
BAD: Nope don't see them, and come on, REALLY, no SITTING on a chair, or a stool Anims???
GOOD:Mobs drop Items-- again not tested by me.
BAD: No NPCs "consume" items Yet (might be wrong on this)
GOOD: Key bind fix (see below)
BAD: You are Forced to reset the Keybind to get out of 3D edit mode now (so no more Ctrl Tab - but you still have to wait an age for things to "reset")
GOOD: New NPCs
BAD: Still Can't change colors on default clothing, and still nothing but "armor" choices in the drop down menu on most NPCs

Good: General bug fixes?? I crash more now just entering the Foundry
BAD: No Map Saving/Sharing yet, NO TIMERS?, no Gelatinous cubes (ok sorry about the cubes thing), and other things we had on our lists and have not been implemented.

But all things said an done, this is a step in the right direction.

Thanks for at least listening to us Devs.

NW1776
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  • ambitionxpambitionxp Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Thanks for the summary. I don't have the time to test it, so it's nice to read about the changes here. Looking forward to free camera and 3d asset mode.
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  • jedite2012jedite2012 Member Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    New NPC but no new encounters?..bummer i want more boss like variety, even if there is no boss encounter at least give us more strong variety of encounters
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  • tserantseran Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 48
    edited July 2013
    I think there are supposed to be some new encounters (from other posts I've seen)...

    Encounters (New): Redcaps, Trolls, Fomorians, Cyclopses.
    Encounters (Special): Adventurers.

    ... not sure if the OP has used them yet.

    Overall though, nice to hear about some of the changes.
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  • redneckroninredneckronin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Honestly, no matter what they add to the Foundry until they add real bosses, and boss fight timers, the whole thing is a horse with three legs.

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  • lolsorhandlolsorhand Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 981 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    You can make boss fights quite interesting :) Look at Clash of Wills, great example.
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  • neverwinter1776neverwinter1776 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    jedite2012 wrote: »
    New NPC but no new encounters?..bummer i want more boss like variety, even if there is no boss encounter at least give us more strong variety of encounters

    Yes sorry, there are more encounters. And the addition to Class encounters (i.e. Cleric, Control Wizard, etc, and in both flavors (Friendly/Aggressive)

    This again was just mu first impression and hadn't have too much time to spend with it.

    And some things may be added, and some things may be taken away.


    But for the Love of one of the Gods! Floors, windows, walls and sitting animations!


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  • lolsorhandlolsorhand Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 981 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    This actually looks great, you percieve some negatives which I look at positive though :p
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  • neverwinter1776neverwinter1776 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    lolsorhand wrote: »
    This actually looks great, you percieve some negatives which I look at positive though :p

    Please elaborate.

    Again only my take on things, I want to know what EVERYONE thinks.

    I always hope that the Devs see our posts and can take them back with them and either use our suggestions or trash them.
    So all comments are more than welcome.

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  • lolsorhandlolsorhand Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 981 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Like this -> Free Camera Mode has collisions (didn't see a way to turn that of other than the old method of mouse hunting)

    Like this -> Not a big bad, but when moving NPCs they leave a ghost and do not retain their animation, rather they default to the costume "stance"

    Not having elven assets isn't terrible, they explained how much work it is. I am certain it will come with time, patience :)

    Animations take alot of time to make, so I'll just wait patiently for that as well. (And as the above, I don't see it as a negative. More like a nonexistant "thing". A negative should be something that's with, but completely useless or broken.


    BAD: Still Can't change colors on default clothing, and still nothing but "armor" choices in the drop down menu on most NPCs.

    BAD: No Gelatinous cubes.

    Then again, timers you can do through mobs. (Needs work yes, needs alot of bug testing yes. But works.) But this aren't really negatives for me, they are things on a wishlist that might get made as time goes on.

    You have to remember though, there is a reason it is a test server. Report those bugs and hopefully most will be fixed, and so further stability added to the foundry.
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  • neverwinter1776neverwinter1776 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I'll agree to some things you mentioned, as I said, we all need to voice our opinions.
    But a few things I'd like to add.
    lolsorhand wrote: »


    Animations take alot of time to make, so I'll just wait patiently for that as well......

    Actually the animations are "already" made, they exist ingame, they just need to allow us to use them.

    lolsorhand wrote: »
    Then again, timers you can do through mobs. (Needs work yes, needs alot of bug testing yes. But works.) But this aren't really negatives for me, they are things on a wishlist that might get made as time goes on.


    But works ---- this is debatable. It works for some, but not for others, it works fine in the Foundry but not Live (again for some and not for others). Also with maintenance these timers sometimes when working fine before the fix work fine but break afterwards. If you read through the stacks of help and please includes, Timers is pretty high on the list.
    And as I marvel at the ingenuity of the workarounds for timers, it is FAR from ideal, and is for the most part broken. And yes I and many have reported these bugs. Just hoping this will be included soon.

    And again I'm not saying "Bad" as intolerable, but just in that these things should be addressed and are still on our wishlist.
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  • tulipvorlaxtulipvorlax Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    The way i found to exit the new 3D mode is to press ESC and the Return to foundry button.

    Edit : Oh and also, the crash entering Foundry i think it's the same as when changing character.
  • lolsorhandlolsorhand Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 981 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2013
    I'll agree to some things you mentioned, as I said, we all need to voice our opinions.
    But a few things I'd like to add.



    Actually the animations are "already" made, they exist ingame, they just need to allow us to use them.



    But works ---- this is debatable. It works for some, but not for others, it works fine in the Foundry but not Live (again for some and not for others). Also with maintenance these timers sometimes when working fine before the fix work fine but break afterwards. If you read through the stacks of help and please includes, Timers is pretty high on the list.
    And as I marvel at the ingenuity of the workarounds for timers, it is FAR from ideal, and is for the most part broken. And yes I and many have reported these bugs. Just hoping this will be included soon.

    And again I'm not saying "Bad" as intolerable, but just in that these things should be addressed and are still on our wishlist.

    Doesn't matter, to get something into the foundry they have to basicly to alot of work. (I believe it was Sominator, or one of the devs on a german stream that described the process. Probobly the latter.)

    It's more complicated than just copy pasting, and when someone has time over, well then they can work to add things to the foundry.
    I like turtles.

    Brethren of the Five, Campaign. - Story focused
    The Dwarven Tale - Hack 'N Slash
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