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thesakari
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In preparation for this patch I just redesigned my spec. When building this new spec I was FORCED to focus on:
#1. Not being in stealth
#2. Having a lower crit chance
lmfao what class am I playing again? Bad game design is bad.
#1. Not being in stealth
#2. Having a lower crit chance
lmfao what class am I playing again? Bad game design is bad.
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I dont play Cw as main, i play GF and getting hit for 25k by a Tr is shocking to say the least, I dont have terrable gear, full Timeless heroe's set except the sword,14.9k Gs, all Lvl 7 enchants in Defence and Offence and a Briartwine armor enhancement, i have a 48% damage resist, an gettting hit like that, Delete the class altogether i say. Why bother wasteing time to fix a broken class thats broken beyond the point wasteing many man hours when they could be doing something more productive like makeing some dungeons with boss mechanic other than chucking loads adds at ya an a useless boss who cant do s**t
Well no. What you're describing is a CW specced with no AoE's and not a whole lot of skill. Countering a rogue in stealth is exceptionally easy for most any competently played CW. One could just as easily (and much more accurately ask) "what hope do TR's who didn't pop ItC in time have against any intelligently played CW?" Except in that case the answer actually is "none." PvP issues mostly fall into two categories, at levels below 60 it usually L2P. At 60 it is usually a combination of not being geared on the same level and L2P.
Tell us how you really feel.
Answer: Everything
CWs have 3 dodges while other classes including Rogues only have 2. 1 dodge can break the CoS dagger spam of Rogues and reset the damage increase bonus. CWs have Shield. Reduces damage by 80% of first hit and less after that. CWs have much more range than a Rogue has with CoS. CWs have an insane amount of CCs that can CC lock any Rogue without Impossible to Catch up. ItC only lasts for 5 seconds. So all the CW has to do is kite and stay away from the Rogue during that 5 seconds then CC lock them and Ice Knife for 20k - 40k at range.
Only bad CWs with bad gear get owned by Rogues. I'm guessing you're one of those CWs or you're just playing devil's advocate on 2 classes you know nothing about.
ROFL a GF who supposedly has 48% damage mitigation getting hit for 25k. Learn to Block, you tard. Block mitigates ALL damage from every single skill in this game. With the terrible Block and Dodge mechanics where you can Block and Dodge 1 second after someone hits you, you can spin around in a circle and Block every attack any Rogue throws at you. Then again, a crappy player like yourself who can only whine wouldn't know how to play against a Rogue... a class that GFs are a hard counter to.
^this.....
Here is a *HUG* because you are crying about being killed by a TR. All I can say is learn to play because the majority of the GFs I have faced in PVP know how to play the GF class correctly. A good GF has the knowledge on how to block and it takes skill to bring it down. What you are describing when it comes to a CW is a player who put no thought into their character, no effort into gearing it, and lacks the skill to properly play it. It appears you lack the skill to properly play your GF as well. There should be no nerf of any class and the DCs should be boosted because the previous *balancing* update nerfed them to much.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
^Correct 100%...
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
Haha classic!
I couldnt say it better my self
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Stealth classes always bring a huge problem to the table in MMO's because they end up with the most ppl theory crafting and trying to exploit it to make bugged chees builds. No surprise really that happened here. Now cryptic made a great move to correct that. These changes just bring down the class to the other class lvls some. They are still strong and do tons of Dps its just now they aren't bugging out a bunch of mechanics.
^This appears to be a poor attempt to troll and even the name appears to look like it was created for the purpose of trolling. It might be a fake created by abombination247 since abombination247 appears to be the number 1 individual trolling the TR forums.
Honestly it is the ones that do not know how to play who were crying so much for TRs to be nerfed and who are celebrating it. This nerf will not be hurting my TR build as hard as the cookie cutter build that relies on stealth. The individuals who are crying for TRs to be nerfed will still be crying because they still are going to be killed by TRs.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
Original? You first mentioned learn to play in your own comment. I guess you fail at being original yourself. Here is a *HUG* because you were killed by a TR in PVP and will continue to be killed by TRs. Have a nice day.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
Having heard it from so many rogues in the past it outlines perfectly how you must actually learn to play rather than button mash.
I look forward to seeing you in PVP on my GWF.
If you are on the Dragon server sure and thanks for the easy fight. My custom build does not Lurker's Assault, Speed Swindle, and hardly even uses Stealth. I used the scoundrel Paragon path as well. The daggers removed from Cloud of Steel can be replaced by using impact shot. The only thing that will hurt my build a little will be the stack 10 cap added to bleed. Bleed is not being removed and will still be working. I currently wipe the floor with 90% of the GWFs I face in PVP and I will continue to do so after the nerf. So yeah, I already know how to play and even have been accused of hacking by using a PVP potion to help defeat some of the stronger GWFs. TRs who cry over this nerf will have to adapt or will band together to have the other classes nerfed. This means your GWF could be on the chopping blocks next. Hopefully not because it is a fun challenged fighting the different classes. The only change that should be made is to boost DCs.
There is no point to whine for nerfs because you win some and loose some. Crying just makes a player look like a crier and no one, especially the devs, should take them seriously. Have a nice day!:)
Back on topic, GWF & GFs really need to be nerfed.
GF currently has too much damage potential for a supposed defensive class along with low skill/high survivability. (No, it does not take much skill to press shift & stare at a person.)
They can easily 2-3 shot people, obtain 50%+ damage mitigation, & have their shield on top of that.
GWF's damage is fine but being able to spam 90%+ damage mitigation + invulnerability constantly is wonky.
Ice Knife also needs to be nerfed, people whine about 20k damage TRs when Ice Knife can easily do 40k+.
So psycadelica....are u one of those gfs that simply take your hands off the keyboard once smoke dazes you?^___^
lol a GWF? You had problems with TR? Thank you for that laugh, I needed it.
40k Ice Knife? No way not since the RoE nerf and the fix to stop multiple CW's stacking RoE. I would love to see a video of someone currently doing this. Maybe if you add the Ice knife dmg with a Con build full Greater Tene dmg? Maybe...
I don't have the greatest gear and I don't use Tene but I've never seen anything close to the dmg you claim. Maybe it's a gear issue but I won't believe it till I see it.
Not a video and not in PvP, but ACT results on a T2 boss who has 24% damage resistance (more DR than most CWs and TRs have in PvP):
http://i46.fastpic.ru/big/2013/0719/23/ab8b973effe854e015abb4f975725223.jpg
Good CWs can hit for over 40k in PvP with Ice Knife. And they do this from far range, not in melee range like Rogues have to be. They also build AP much faster than Rogues and can CC lock their opponents to set up those ranged 40k+ 1-shots. Just because you've never experienced it or seen it doesn't mean it's impossible.
Oh, and CWs don't even have to rely on their Dailies to own people. Their other Encounters and Tab moves do insane damage too. Way too many high damage skills for a far ranged class that has 3 dodges and can CC lock players.
However it requires some experience and good management of encounters in order to pull off, the way I see it.
Also this is PvE...victim = Hrimnir ?
Yeah obvious troll account is obvious. Not sure why people get suckered in by abom's multiple troll accounts time and time again...
Anyway, I agree that the truly overpowered classes, GWF and GF, were the ones who needed to be nerfed. But they didn't get touched because they were the ones who were joining the CW and DC crybabies to get Rogues nerfed to hell. Not to mention, certain moderators shutting down those whine threads and leaving the Rogue QQ threads alone.
Tank classes should not be able to CC lock and 3-shot people. They should not be able to top damage charts in PvE. But they do in Neverwinter because of the silly devs at Cryptic.
I can handle GFs ok, not great and some of them maybe don't know what they are doing, hard to say. I agree GWF seem better than anyone not sure why they nerf TR and not address them. I play a CW as a main btw.