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Instant kill for spawn campers...

timmbeertimmbeer Member Posts: 268 Bounty Hunter
edited July 2013 in PvE Discussion
Don't know whether it was suggested or not: when PVPers enter an enemy spawn camp, they get instant killed. Bonus if the kill counts towards K/D/A for the camp owners.

Of course, that means camp owners will try to pull enemies into the camp. L2P by avoiding the camp. :)
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  • honoraryorangehonoraryorange Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I'd be okay with this. Spawns should also eject AFKers out of the Spawn area after 15 seconds. Win/win!
  • abombination247abombination247 Member Posts: 1,279 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?404961-The-real-fix-to-Spawn-Camping-is-to-fix-Spawn-Sitting

    This is my post Spawn sitting is the real problem not camping. If there was no sitting in some safe zone there be no camping. To fix this problem after 10-15 secs you are catapulted out to fight this is the best fix for the situation by far. If you are gonna sit in camp don't que. Pretty simple fix to spawn camping right there stop all the spawn sitting. Spawn sitters are the worst kind of players and should get banned from PvP. How about we report them for not coming out into a match they qued for ? Fair is Fair. Stop spawn sitting now!!!
  • manholiomanholio Member Posts: 493 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    ^^^

    You could always implement your "hard counter"...
  • abombination247abombination247 Member Posts: 1,279 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    manholio wrote: »
    ^^^

    You could always implement your "hard counter"...

    I have about 1min into a match me and my friends left yesterday after a 3 cap no point in staying there. Waste of time. owned that match. and was off fighting again instantly.
  • wholyhandgrenadewholyhandgrenade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I would like a forfit option.
  • nasafurenasafure Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I'm sure the Neverwinter Team is hard at work to fix this Problem. Its just a matter of time before this travesty becomes a memory.
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  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    nasafure wrote: »
    I'm sure the Neverwinter Team is hard at work to fix this Problem. Its just a matter of time before this travesty becomes a memory.

    LOL, yeah right.
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  • mctankypantsmctankypants Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The problem isn't spawn camping. People only bother with it out of boredom. The real issue is why not have a 'Surrender' option whereby the opposing team can bow out when outmatched. Sitting around waiting for the points cap is a game killer. Sitting at the fire is the equivalent of Tera players hiding in the water waiting for the match to be over. The reality is people give up if they aren't steam rolling, at least give teams a chance to forfeit (no points, or limited points given) and move on. We're still plagued with Bots with no way to combat them. If you don't leave the match before it starts, you're done.
  • abombination247abombination247 Member Posts: 1,279 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    mctankypants wrote: »
    The problem isn't spawn camping. People only bother with it out of boredom. The real issue is why not have a 'Surrender' option whereby the opposing team can bow out when outmatched. Sitting around waiting for the points cap is a game killer. Sitting at the fire is the equivalent of Tera players hiding in the water waiting for the match to be over. The reality is people give up if they aren't steam rolling, at least give teams a chance to forfeit (no points, or limited points given) and move on. We're still plagued with Bots with no way to combat them. If you don't leave the match before it starts, you're done.

    Bingo... The other team should surrender or fight. There should be no time in a match where there isn't fighting though.
  • chudovishyechudovishye Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Saw it mentioned already, I'll second or third it. How about you pussies get out of the spawn and fight instead of sitting there to get your measly glory that's left? Should be a penalty for pussies too.
  • derpaderpistderpaderpist Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    timmbeer wrote: »
    Don't know whether it was suggested or not: when PVPers enter an enemy spawn camp, they get instant killed. Bonus if the kill counts towards K/D/A for the camp owners.

    Of course, that means camp owners will try to pull enemies into the camp. L2P by avoiding the camp. :)

    I see this being implemented in Neverwinter like 2017 , untill then have fun being spawn camped .
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  • webbotwebbot Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    New title: Instant kill for spawn sitters
  • benskix2benskix2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    How about instead anyone who stays in there own spawn for more than 60 seconds gets removed from the match and can't queue for PVP again for 24 hours.
  • mctankypantsmctankypants Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    @Benskix2. The problem I see with this is a little thing I like to call life. What if in the middle of a match those chili-cheese fries you opted to get on your way home decide to take a turn for the worse and you get a mad case of the hershey-squirts. There definitely needs to be some changes made but going too drastic could hurt the player base more than help it. There are those of us that live for pvp. We want and deserve positive changes that will make it even more enjoyable to be involved in.
  • manholiomanholio Member Posts: 493 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    mctankypants wrote: »
    @Benskix2. What if in the middle of a match those chili-cheese fries you opted to get on your way home decide to take a turn for the worse and you get a mad case of the hershey-squirts.

    Chili cheese fries are OP. Even if you stack Pepto.
  • abombination247abombination247 Member Posts: 1,279 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    webbot wrote: »
    New title: Instant kill for spawn sitters

    I think anyone that sits in the spawn area should be reported for abuse of the game mechanics.
  • benskix2benskix2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    mctankypants wrote: »
    @Benskix2. The problem I see with this is a little thing I like to call life. What if in the middle of a match those chili-cheese fries you opted to get on your way home decide to take a turn for the worse and you get a mad case of the hershey-squirts. There definitely needs to be some changes made but going too drastic could hurt the player base more than help it. There are those of us that live for pvp. We want and deserve positive changes that will make it even more enjoyable to be involved in.

    LOL, well there is an auto-kick for being afk, so they could just make the time limit slightly longer than the afk time limit so it only kicks people who are sitting there on purpose and not those with irritable bowels ;)
  • abombination247abombination247 Member Posts: 1,279 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    nasafure wrote: »
    I'm sure the Neverwinter Team is hard at work to fix this Problem. Its just a matter of time before this travesty becomes a memory.

    I hope Spawn sitting is eradicated. Its the worst thing in this game by far.
  • etherealjetherealj Member Posts: 1,091 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Having the res timer kill any opposing team in the campfire radius would be ****ing hilarious.
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  • mctankypantsmctankypants Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I was in a GG game earlier, and yes there was spawn camping going on but there was also a huge amount of people afk at the fire. It's like blood in the water.
  • etherealjetherealj Member Posts: 1,091 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    mctankypants wrote: »
    I was in a GG game earlier, and yes there was spawn camping going on but there was also a huge amount of people afk at the fire. It's like blood in the water.

    Actual participation doesn't give any rewards in GG so I'm not surprised.
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  • mctankypantsmctankypants Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Agreed. I was really disappointed in my measly 3 coins and 180 glory.
  • teezy604teezy604 Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    mctankypants wrote: »
    I was in a GG game earlier, and yes there was spawn camping going on but there was also a huge amount of people afk at the fire. It's like blood in the water.

    Nothing will stop us from getting up there!
  • milkbonedogmilkbonedog Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    abombination247 wrote: »
    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?404961-The-real-fix-to-Spawn-Camping-is-to-fix-Spawn-Sitting If there was no sitting in some safe zone there be no camping./QUOTE]

    This makes absolutely no sense. If someone is sitting in their spawn and they refuse to come out why would you and your entire team camp their spawn? Is it to entice them to jump off the ledge and try to take on all 5 of you by themselves? I have ended up in this situation on a few occasions and I am not going to just jump down so you can kill me over and over without me having a chance to defend myself. That would just be <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. You are creating the problem you wish to avoid. If I was able to get out without being insta-killed I would come down and try to cap or find a one on one fight, but that is never the case. As soon as others quit and there are only one or two left on a team all 5 players from the other team push for the spawn point. Your camping creates spawn sitting. I keep on fighting no matter how badly it is going until that moment when I spawn and the other team is just standing there waiting for me. It always happens when the teams become very unbalanced because the team with more players goes to the other team's spawn.

    The real fix is as soon as someone quits someone else should join. Then you wouldn't have 5 on 1 as long as there is someone queued for PVP. I may still be a slaughter but at least it is a slightly more even fight.
  • etherealjetherealj Member Posts: 1,091 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    nasafure wrote: »
    I'm sure the Neverwinter Team is hard at work to fix this Problem. Its just a matter of time before this travesty becomes a memory.

    It's been possible since GG was in alpha. Back in March ish. Woo
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  • jintortlejintortle Member Posts: 655 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    honoraryorange wrote: »
    I'd be okay with this. Spawns should also eject AFKers out of the Spawn area after 15 seconds. Win/win!

    That might seem good but when you down to 3v5 and they are just sitting there waiting for you - what should you do - constant death - and it is bizarre we could not attack them from the spawn but 2 rouges got in and just sliced and diced us - and escapee was just hunted down by the other 3. it is bad because if 2 low a score you get no Glory.

    Also to answer some others here; 15 seconds and catapult remarks etc... If it happened everyone would just quit - no glory for anyone - how about that for a joke.

    Bring back that we can attack from the spawn or we can not escape.

    Maybe have 2 or more exits would be good.
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