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freshiiiiiiiiiifreshiiiiiiiiii Member Posts: 12 Arc User
edited July 2013 in The Thieves' Den
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okay stats my pve stats with pet.

what u think about it?

max armor pen and high power together?

i can increase the socket so i can get over 6000 power.

okay now my pvp stats without pet

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same with sockets, can increase power.

pls comment :)

maybe other rogues can post her stats?

last word: i dont like the recovery rogue ^^
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  • fimcontefimconte Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Too much power.
    Needs more Crit (depends on how powerful Vorpal you have) and/or Recovery.

    I guess you're not using Swashbuckling set?
    Recovery on Rogues is still a good stat, but I don't stack for it and I'm capped with 4pc Swashbuckling (~2k unbuffed).

    Also, only 396 Lifesteal...
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  • xpertzxxxxpertzxxx Member Posts: 96
    edited July 2013
    you're a walking glass cannon - if it works for you, don't change it.
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  • freshiiiiiiiiiifreshiiiiiiiiii Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    i have the greater vorpal at mainhand.

    i think the best dmg each hit u get with apen cap + high power.

    i have 48crit chance, 1-2% more dont help me ^^

    lifesteal? for what? :P cleric at group = save ^^

    my way is to deal with every hit the best dmg. my luckers assault need a little bit longer to fill up, but this stats + luckers are amazing ^^

    i dont like to deal only good dmg at my ulti ^^

    my lvl 60 rogue start with pvp gear, and then i go for full swash set.

    but full swash = 0 apen. u need to change all other items to have 23%apen and at pvp u can never have over 18% armor pen ^^

    its funny because i use my swash parts to dye my new items :P

    i hope u know that exist realy good blue items for head torso glove boots belt and rings for 5-20k each item ^^ okay belt is not so cheap.
  • fimcontefimconte Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Power isn't very good, see math here:
    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?295232-Banelorne-s-Stealth-Based-Executioner-TR-Build&p=4924491#post4924491

    Crit is 2nd best stat after ArP is capped. 1% crit = ~1%+ dmg with Greater Vorpal.

    I don't use Swash for PVP, Skulker is superior.
    In PvE, you can cap ArP with Companion.

    My stats in PVE:
    Power: 4921
    Critical Strike: 3645
    Armor Penetration: 2419
    Recovery: 2868
    Defense: 717
    Deflect: 206
    Regeneration: 0
    Life Steal: 949

    I'm not sure why you're bringing up blues, any 2pc/2pc t1/t2 combination will beat blues and 4pc Swash offers the best stats.
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  • freshiiiiiiiiiifreshiiiiiiiiii Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    how much crit chance u have with 3645 crit strike?

    i have ~3000 and you 3645.

    if that right -> kripp dr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR4KdpzlbqU

    than i get 1.5% more critchance from 3000 to 3645.

    1.5% not worth to replace items :P

    look this, i think blue items are better :P, because they have all stats u need in my opinion.

    i know the pyro epic ring is a little bit better, i get it later with higher power sockets.

    it exist glove with power crit apen defence, but all i saw have low power, so i choose this ^^

    look yourself, have fun, feel free so ask me anything

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2cerxhg&s=5

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  • fimcontefimconte Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I guess that depends on what you mean "worth".

    When I upgraded to Ancient rings they were worth ~250k each. I could've sold them, but instead used them for myself.

    That +12 stats for 250k.
    Probably not the best stat/ad ratio, but those rings are Best In Slot. And I wanted to have best gear in the game.

    Same reason why people upgrade to r8/r9/r10 enchants.
    Going from r9 to r10 is ~3million AD more. For +40 stats. Is it worth it?

    From a AD point of view? Not really.
    But from the point of view that "I want the best enchants and best gear"? Yes.


    As for 3.6k vs 3k crit, it depends on your Vorpal and the ability in question.
    On High Damage Encounters (Lashing, Impact, Dazing, Deft), 1.5% crit is worth losing 620 power, if you have a powerful enough Vorpal.
    On DF, it's a wash, with Power being slightly better.

    But in PvP, I would rather have 1.5% crit, since burst damage wins you fights more than consistent damage.
    Hitting 2 lashing blades for 6k+6k (most fights don't last 15sec+ for Lashing to come out of CD anyway) vs critting one for 15k+ can make a huge difference.


    Anyway, you asked comments on your rogue stats.
    And I commented on what stats would offer you more damage.

    If you had asked "which items within x budget would give me more damage" I wouldn't have brought up Skulker and such.

    P.S.
    Forgot to add HP to my stats.
    Mine is 25995 (in PvE gear).
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  • freshiiiiiiiiiifreshiiiiiiiiii Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    okay all good but i cant understand one point.
    Hitting 2 lashing blades for 6k+6k (most fights don't last 15sec+ for Lashing to come out of CD anyway) vs critting one for 15k+ can make a huge difference.
    my lashing blade at pvp deal most time around 13k crit, 10-17k. then i do all right?

    enchants at 9 and 10 are my dreams ^^ rank5 are 120stats, rank 9 and 10 around 250-300 (dont know exact) its more then double.
  • fimcontefimconte Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The point is that in PvP, most fights don't last long enough to Lashing Blade twice.

    If you crit the target for 15k+ with Lashing Blade and then crit him with Impact Shot or Dazing Strike or whatever ability he's dead.

    But if you hit the target for 6k and then have to do another 14k-24k damage to kill the target, it doesn't matter that you had a bit extra Power, because the small amount of damage Power gives is less likely to win you the fight.

    This is why I prefer crit over power, even when approaching high diminish returns on Crit rating.

    Obviously I'm not advocating going for 5k Crit or whatever, but until 4-4.5k I think Crit rating offers better benefits in PvP, and only marginal damage loss in PvE (we're talking 0.0x% difference between Power and Crit at that point).
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  • derpaderpistderpaderpist Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
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    okay stats my pve stats with pet.

    what u think about it?

    max armor pen and high power together?

    i can increase the socket so i can get over 6000 power.

    okay now my pvp stats without pet

    r1dhyh.png

    same with sockets, can increase power.

    pls comment :)

    maybe other rogues can post her stats?

    last word: i dont like the recovery rogue ^^

    No regeneration whatsoever = major flaw .
    " We live in an age of the cheaply made, disposable, high priced junk. " - theunwarshed
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