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Since changes to GF is Conquer build still #1 path
jdenn01
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Is the conqueror build still the best path for the GF?
I am concerned that the final feat which boost our power based on shield meter may seem not so good. At beginning of battle it looks good but in the fight when you have to use your shield for protection you will reduce the meter and in effect reduce your overall effectiveness. I am aware the gear score is boosted by this and that is what other look at for end game runs.
Based on y'all's experince is this still a good path?
Do you have issues with the shield meter in fights?
Is it possible to go down both conqueror and protector and get the 10% DMG reduction to shield meter plus 9% dmg boost to cleave, stab and shield slam and stil be effective?
Thanks for any input!
I tried the other classes and keep coming back to my GF cause it is fun to play.
Now I want to make sure I can be useful and wanted.
Still learning the big fight so I can move effectively in them.
Skill is more important than gear in my opinion.
I am concerned that the final feat which boost our power based on shield meter may seem not so good. At beginning of battle it looks good but in the fight when you have to use your shield for protection you will reduce the meter and in effect reduce your overall effectiveness. I am aware the gear score is boosted by this and that is what other look at for end game runs.
Based on y'all's experince is this still a good path?
Do you have issues with the shield meter in fights?
Is it possible to go down both conqueror and protector and get the 10% DMG reduction to shield meter plus 9% dmg boost to cleave, stab and shield slam and stil be effective?
Thanks for any input!
I tried the other classes and keep coming back to my GF cause it is fun to play.
Now I want to make sure I can be useful and wanted.
Still learning the big fight so I can move effectively in them.
Skill is more important than gear in my opinion.
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In my opinion, a GF's main role is to help control aggro. So shield down or not, you can still hold aggro. And you can do that with the Conqueror. My shield almost never went down during fighting Draco.
The shield doesn't take too long to charge up. Be selective when you hold your SHIFT button. I use it charge AP mostly. Most of us have enough HP to absorb some damage when our shield is recharging. Fighters Recovery + Enforced Thread/Trample usuallys fills my HP bar immediately.
Whenever I do run out of blocks, it's because other classes have made mistakes. Regardless of your build, I think the meter is just about the same length.
In fact, I'm not even sure if all the small defensive percentages offered by other paths are that significant. I wish someone could share this with me too.
By the way, with tank build you can hold more aggro and get more dmg for your team. I think in the future will be the best path to use, because you can manage to dps with reflected dmg.
Tactician is very interesting, more but need a premade team. You can handle enemy dmg output better than a conqueror and buff your party dps. Also, your dmg is not so bad.
With all spec, i always found GF a very good class.
One problem: abuse of tenebrous ench can change this. I think that a buff that increase your dmg based on your HP can be really unbalancing. It's Olaf style
Noone needs you to hold aggro in end game lol , what are you smoking ^^
let's take Lesser Tenebrous for example, on a 35k HP GF:
that would mean 350 damage every 10 seconds (it procs once every 10 seconds).
or am i wrong here?
GWF in other dungeons are one of your TOP DPS classes due to high AoE dmg in end game gear/enchants.
But if you do both PVP and PVE, then Conq is still #1.
Gods Glory to the Heroes.
TR:Anirul Corrino@Fimconte
GF:Irulan Corrino@Fimconte
#1 Reason to take Conqueror is this:
#2 Reason: #3 Reason:
As I mentioned above, I'd stop as Tactical Superiority and skip the last one, but what else are you going to do with just 1 point.
Im running Tactician atm and its far from useless.
The cons and pros are here; http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?322521-best-GF-build-atm-By-FearItsSelf-jun4-2013/page29
Last post is mine.
I will be playing with different specs and take in consideration. What was mentioned. So far I do like the boost to my DMG but the big fights will be the decider for me. The hard part is deciding what enchantments and such to use. Thanks y'all
Good chance you haven't even tried the other feats or played them poorly.
This confirms it. If you even tried Protector or Tactician, you played them wrong.
A good Tactician/Protector GF means that the DC only has to keep an eye on one health bar. It also means that each person on your team can live a lot longer than they normally would. It's about on par with old double DC parties.
If you can show me video evidence of a Conqueror GF standing outside of Astral Shield with Knight's Valor on during the Epic Spider Queen boss fight and not dying, I'll concede.
Tactical Superiority is only +5% as you can still maintain the 10% from Combat Superiority.
You can take Wrathful Warrior in Tactician build, but it's probably not as great, since you'll be taking damage more often.
Now the main draws for Tactician imho are Inspiring Leader and Martial Mastery.
Inspiring Leader offers a lot more party damage than Tactical Superiority.
And Martial Mastery lets you have Dailies up constantly.
The only problem is that this spec isn't that great for PvP, compared to Conqueror.
Which is why I don't use it.
Gods Glory to the Heroes.
TR:Anirul Corrino@Fimconte
GF:Irulan Corrino@Fimconte
He has run most of the popular builds but this one is by far the most solid in terms of aggro and survivability.
When I run with other builds I notice a huge difference as far as damage received regarding the whole party. The DCs that run with him comment on the ease of keeping him standing as well as not having to itchy trigger finger for when someone takes damage.
If you are running a dps spec then you are not a true tank:P
damager = conqueror
tank = protector
support = tactician
conqueror might have the strongest damage but it sacrifices deflect and +5AC
for pvp tactician and protector can also 1 skill KO if you have tene
the other 2 path damage is lower but tougher
at pvp the tougher you are the better
high damage is just good at killing high HP or def build classes
Tank probably moves better then the average GF and hammers the Recovery key. The only way to substantially reduce the damage you take while tanking is...stand in fewer red circles. Spec hardly matters
What is it with people giving their specs dumb names? Guy you linked plays prot. Why can't people just say prot?
He is using knights valor and SOS, knights valor intercepts damage SOS reflects damage back at the mob, thus building threat on every damage source attacking the party.
GF will need to roll a turtle i think, these dps hybrids are not gunna cut it.. simply because what once was considered "no need for a gf" will soon be "i need a gf please help"
and one that has alot of defense.
Currently alot of dungeons get skipped, boss fight adds can be avoided if you know how it's all done.
But it will soon change, i think we'll see alot more GF's around in parties aswell.
Toons:
New: CW Level 60
GF = Level 60
DC = Level 60
TR = Level 60