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Cleric Companion needs buffing?

raddatackraddatack Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Is it just me or is the cleric companion really bad? I use her to provide a little bit of healing to help me while i'm off soloing but for some ******* reason she doesn't know how to heal herself. So while im attacking i have to pick her *** up because she's so ******* stupid. Makes me mad :mad:
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  • praska24601praska24601 Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The Cleric companion I have works great for soloing heals...have you been sending your cleric for Training? In the companion section theres a clikable gutton to send the companion for Training. Hope this helps.
    Also the heals from the companion cleric are not entirely a direct sort of heal but come via the companions attacks on mobs. Check out the companions spell descriptions , this will help you "alter" your play style some to accomadate the companions play style.
  • bioshrikebioshrike Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,729 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The cleric companion has a heal-other spell on a 30 second cooldown. While it may share the name and icon of DC power, it functions differently. She's definitely useful, but is more of a crutch than a full-fledged teammate. Think of her like a sidekick or tag-along kid...
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  • raddatackraddatack Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    praska24601 wrote: »
    The Cleric companion I have works great for soloing heals...have you been sending your cleric for Training? In the companion section theres a clikable gutton to send the companion for Training. Hope this helps.
    Also the heals from the companion cleric are not entirely a direct sort of heal but come via the companions attacks on mobs. Check out the companions spell descriptions , this will help you "alter" your play style some to accomadate the companions play style.
    Yeah i know all that. She's maxed.
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  • raddatackraddatack Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    bioshrike wrote: »
    The cleric companion has a heal-other spell on a 30 second cooldown. While it may share the name and icon of DC power, it functions differently. She's definitely useful, but is more of a crutch than a full-fledged teammate. Think of her like a sidekick or tag-along kid...

    Good point. But she just dies so fast. It's a second job taking care of her.
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  • bioshrikebioshrike Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,729 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    raddatack wrote: »
    Good point. But she just dies so fast. It's a second job taking care of her.

    Oh no doubt. I wish they had companion runes that could reduce or increase the aggro they generate. I also try to give her items that grant defense.
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  • sockmunkeysockmunkey Member Posts: 4,622 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If we assume that companion ranks equal two levels. The problem becomes obvious. Taking whats equal to a level 30 pet into level 40+ content is going to be awfully hard on the pet. This compounded with the fact that pets are pretty dumb, in that they seem to insist on standing in the red circles, and the problem only gets worse.

    When you bring a white pet into higher level content you have to do so knowing that the pet is going to crumple like wet paper. The only real choices here are to use a more advanced pet. Or to get used to picking the weaker ones off the floor.
  • jorifice1jorifice1 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The Cleric is only a White Companion. Its power is severely limited compared to Green, Blue, and Purple Companions. Sadly, there is no better Healer Pet in game (unless the upcoming Sylph can heal). She is basically just a between fight healer after around level 40 or so.
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  • tarmalentarmalen Member Posts: 1,020 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    jorifice1 wrote: »
    The Cleric is only a White Companion. Its power is severely limited compared to Green, Blue, and Purple Companions. Sadly, there is no better Healer Pet in game (unless the upcoming Sylph can heal). She is basically just a between fight healer after around level 40 or so.

    The companions are crutches...practice for a few day WITHOUT crutches...

    You will absolutely crush solo content once you do the above simple thing.
  • knightfalzknightfalz Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    jorifice1 wrote: »
    The Cleric is only a White Companion. Its power is severely limited compared to Green, Blue, and Purple Companions. Sadly, there is no better Healer Pet in game (unless the upcoming Sylph can heal). She is basically just a between fight healer after around level 40 or so.

    The sylph appears to be a damage companion.

    I get the best use from companions on my GFs, due to aggro keeping them safer, and when playing solo could even keep the lowly Cleric up and running a fair bit of the time at 60, but my other characters can't keep companions going as well in high levels.
  • tarmalentarmalen Member Posts: 1,020 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Ok...quick time out.....the higher your companions level...the less aggro.

    Back to my rant....y'all don't know your class if you need a companion!!!!
  • knightfalzknightfalz Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    tarmalen wrote: »
    Ok...quick time out.....the higher your companions level...the less aggro.

    Back to my rant....y'all don't know your class if you need a companion!!!!

    The game is designed for solo players along with a companion for all but skirmishes and dungeons. That some do not need to have a companion is all well and good, but some people have less skill than others and may need one, or may simply want one for whatever other reason they may have. How they play is up to them, not you.
  • tgnetblaisetgnetblaise Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    don't even bother with the cleric.. Get a dps companion... Everything Dies faster
  • kdwolf69kdwolf69 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Help is on the way, with the new companion training finally coming out in the next patch. I don't think I "need"a companion for solo content, but it does make solo play more enjoyable. The "lowly" Cleric will most likely be the most used level 30 companion for it heals alone.Between 4 characters I hope to collect them all soon.
  • knightfalzknightfalz Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    tarmalen wrote: »
    No offense...but how far does the game have to hold a hand before everyone agrees that the player skill level is that of a rock???

    Let us take it a step further.....People that can't transverse this game and it's requirements...we need to send them a care package???

    Companions are all well and good....but if companions are your "excuse" for not being able to complete this game......what do you want?

    The game doesn't have to hold the hands of players at all. The developers chose for the game to hold the hands of players. Hey, it's the way the game was designed, and that was well publicized.

    If you didn't want to play a game that helps players along a bit you should have chose something else to play, or you can choose to run without a companion. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean everyone else has to climb aboard your bandwagon and play the game the way you might prefer or the way you think it should be played.
  • pfft2pfft2 Member Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    sockmunkey wrote: »
    When you bring a white pet into higher level content you have to do so knowing that the pet is going to crumple like wet paper. The only real choices here are to use a more advanced pet. Or to get used to picking the weaker ones off the floor.

    Yep. Or just leave her on the floor. After the fight's over, she'll automatically resurrect with full health.

    She's just a down-time reducer (and/or potion-use reducer) at higher levels. And she's pretty good for that purpose.
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  • nikitaoznikitaoz Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 149 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    raddatack wrote: »
    Is it just me or is the cleric companion really bad? I use her to provide a little bit of healing to help me while i'm off soloing but for some ******* reason she doesn't know how to heal herself. So while im attacking i have to pick her *** up because she's so ******* stupid. Makes me mad :mad:

    If I get it right you are writing about the common (white) companion.
    She heals HP based on YOUR max HP. So if you want more heals, buff up your HP.

    But she needs some more damage resistance increased and offensive ability removed or buffed.
  • parp12parp12 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    raddatack wrote: »
    Is it just me or is the cleric companion really bad? I use her to provide a little bit of healing to help me while i'm off soloing but for some ******* reason she doesn't know how to heal herself. So while im attacking i have to pick her *** up because she's so ******* stupid. Makes me mad :mad:

    Let her die, once the fight is over she'll have full health.
  • parp12parp12 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    praska24601 wrote: »
    Also the heals from the companion cleric are not entirely a direct sort of heal but come via the companions attacks on mobs.
    The main heal is the cleric companion has is healing word, 20% of your hit points and is entirely a direct heal. Just like on the DC Sacred Flame heals such a low amount it's almost not a heal.
  • nick1sternnick1stern Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 330 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    I use the white cleric companion but I tend to switch in and out with a higher level blue skele dog.
    I Switch between large fights or masses of mobs to get the healing and use fewer potions.
    I do find that if you have the cleric out and use any skill to draw aggro to you is when she is
    at her most usefull being a GF I can go into guard and hammer away and she keeps my health on full most of the time.
  • zahinderzahinder Member Posts: 897 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yeah, I'm REALLY excited to finally have companion upgrade stuff in the game. It's been stupidly long.

    I assume the hold-up has been a combination of making decent rank 30 abilities for all the companions and wanting people to feel 'encouraged' to buy zen companions.

    I want my guardian to have a dog companion that's credible, and I don't want a dire wolf or skeletal dog or whatever... I want a HOUND!
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  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Stack regen and HP/defense on her. The heal will cooldown faster and she might even get two heals off before dying.
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  • dngrmse1dngrmse1 Member Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    tarmalen wrote: »
    The companions are crutches...practice for a few day WITHOUT crutches...

    I use my cleric companion as bait, since it's useless in 40+ content for healing, (in combat). As an aggro magnet, it buys my character a few precious seconds by keeping some of the trash busy. And when the battle is over, and she poofs back to life, (with full health), all her healing powers are focused on my character.

    I haven't tried this yet...but I intend to attempt the summoning of a new companion during battle when the first dies.
  • tang56tang56 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    dngrmse1 wrote: »
    I haven't tried this yet...but I intend to attempt the summoning of a new companion during battle when the first dies.

    Game won't let you. I tried to resummon my wolf after he was KBed into a spike pit and the game wouldn't let me summon anyone until the fight was over.
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  • timmbeertimmbeer Member Posts: 268 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    The cleric does not need a buff. It just needs to have the AI rework, by not standing in a group of elites, at least.
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  • griz024griz024 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 138 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2013
    At max lvl all the companions are basically useless. Besides stone/cat of course.

    The cleric is the only one i have found to be even remotely useful, and only b/c of inbetween combat healing.

    Strikers deal no dmg (even the blue ones) and the white tank drops after a hit at 60 (havent tried golem and have no desire to).
  • zahinderzahinder Member Posts: 897 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    My rank 30 Galeb duhr works great.

    Other stuff, not so much.
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  • dirtyhookdirtyhook Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The cleric companion is just there to help reduce potion costs in downtime.
    I have to say I do notice a large difference in my health from when she is active vs the purple dog.
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