Some of you might be scratching your heads like yea we have PvP. Honestly I don't feel that way. I love the PvP that this game started with in Beta and was fun and entertaining. It showed a lot of promise with 2 maps to basically scrimmage against some other foes for some fun and chuckles. Well Beta is over and so is Beta PvP. This game won't have PvP or a PvP system till we get :
1. 10v10 battlegrounds with different goals such as 2 flag carry/capping for the win. Base capture and last but not least death match team with most kills wins. There needs to be at least 5 PvP maps of 10v10 to be called PvP in a game that is released and rolled out.
2. Arena- Extremely important for any MMO so that players can find out who is the best of the best in PvP. A Arena season where all challengers enter there team of 2v2,3v3,5v5 premade teams with names that they compete against other teams with same win loss rankings for the title of best of that bracket for titles, reward, mounts, gear ...etc .etc..
3. Dueling - This to test your skills in 1v1 combat to sharpen outside of town while waiting to get into your PvP matches.
4. World PvP- This is always a plus but ill say optional and leave it for last. Not nearly as important as the other 3 and well world PvP tends to rile up the PvErs so I wont touch on this one as much.
This is the PvP I expect in a rolled out MMO that is no longer in Beta. So I know fury of the whatever is coming in summer but my question is -
Some players are complaining we need rankings etc etc.. Well we need PvP first and foremost. Until we have PvP which I mentioned above then there is no need to rank the scrimmages that are currently going on. Premade vs Premade is even a joke but its the best we can muster till we actually get PvP in this great game. Hope it happens soon.
Pssh. We need fixes, removal of bots and exploits, before we start worrying about "more" PvP. Just sayin'.
Bots will be in every MMO pvp match the thing is they matter less in other games cause they have a strong PvP platform. Exploits are minor like GG spawn camping but nothing else. Having a PvP platform will fix itself of the Bot issue cause personally if my 10 man team has 2 bots and the other team has 1. I still feel we can win a 8v9 which takes bots out of the picture completely. Not to mention there will be NO bots in Arena which is what PvP is really about since you make your own team have a team captain and compete in competitive PVP.
To be honest i agree with the above im new to NW and really am enjoying low end content at the moment but i do 1 pvp match per level for the exp and find its rather boring i mean domination is fun but the same maps and the que system is horrible. 10vs10 would be nice, and not all people refer pvp to wow DKcandy, Rift is more of a example of what the OP has mentioned and if this game can for fill what rift does would be amazing
To be honest i agree with the above im new to NW and really am enjoying low end content at the moment but i do 1 pvp match per level for the exp and find its rather boring i mean domination is fun but the same maps and the que system is horrible. 10vs10 would be nice, and not all people refer pvp to wow DKcandy, Rift is more of a example of what the OP has mentioned and if this game can for fill what rift does would be amazing
Then why are you not playing Rift for it's PvP?
Same reason you won't last on this game too right? Right!
Do you guys realize this game has only been around a few months??? F2P has a launch budget lol they have to make money to work with before they can work with it... lmao @abomination247 Where do you get your logic from? It should have all that when it rolls out? So what do we replace to have that when it rolls out? they only have so much they can do before they can launch, and quite frankly, WAYYY more people like PVE than PVP. Most players play PVP but they wouldn't play a game that was all <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> PVP if the PVE was ****... lol no deisrespect bro, but you need to start thinkin about what you say, before you say it.
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Anything is better then NO PvP. Also I do hate WoW. I quit that game a long time ago and will never go back it used to be good. Right now I am searching for where I want to play have fun and PvP. Hopefully they release PvP in NW cause I like this game a lot.
Same reason you won't last on this game too right? Right!
That's a idea I guess I can quit and try Rift have friends there. Just thought after Beta we would have PvP and I like the combat and the game. Hopefully they give us some PvP other wise I might be playing Rift for PvP.
Do you guys realize this game has only been around a few months??? F2P has a launch budget lol they have to make money to work with before they can work with it... lmao @abomination247 Where do you get your logic from? It should have all that when it rolls out? So what do we replace to have that when it rolls out? they only have so much they can do before they can launch, and quite frankly, WAYYY more people like PVE than PVP. Most players play PVP but they wouldn't play a game that was all <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> PVP if the PVE was ****... lol no deisrespect bro, but you need to start thinkin about what you say, before you say it.
Don't know about way more players for PvE. The competition is in PvP and no MMO can survive without it. If they want to make money then PvP is where it is at. Players aren't blowing cash in the Zen shop for PvE they are doing it to be decked out to kill other players in PvP. So releasing PvP will be better for the game then any new whatever is coming up for PvE that I won't do.
Anything is better then NO PvP. Also I do hate WoW. I quit that game a long time ago and will never go back it used to be good. Right now I am searching for where I want to play have fun and PvP. Hopefully they release PvP in NW cause I like this game a lot.
If you're looking for a PVP game, let me suggest Lineage 2. You can even get in on a private server if you don't want to go retail.
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kerlaaMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited July 2013
PvP is so far down the list imo. Why do we need another way to found out what TR or GWF is best when there are still so many skills/powers/armor set bonus/boss adds/chat problems/addition classes/races/etc that needs to be worked on first. This game is not billed as a PvP'centric game as far as I know. Lets get other things working/balanced/added/fixed before we start overhauling the whole system.
You can always try AoC or a hundred other games that center around PvP.
Don't know about way more players for PvE. The competition is in PvP and no MMO can survive without it. If they want to make money then PvP is where it is at. Players aren't blowing cash in the Zen shop for PvE they are doing it to be decked out to kill other players in PvP. So releasing PvP will be better for the game then any new whatever is coming up for PvE that I won't do.
Strange I guess my nearly 150$ plus the Guardian package didn't matter then since I never PvP. As far as I know LoTRO is still pretty strong and it is a pretty lame PvM system. In all my years of MMO gaming it was usually the RPG/RP crowd that was blowing the money on games (cosmetic, feel good items, player housing, guild housing, etc). Anything u might want to purchase for PvP also is purchased by PvE players as they want to remain competitive when questing/raiding.
So basically, this game will not have pvp until it is exactly like wow?
While i will agree that only dominance pvp is a bit boring after a while, i dont think this game needs to be a wow clone to have pvp
I will support the adding of any PvP right now we don't have any. So it would be nice if they roll this out soon for everyone looking to PvP. Currently there are so many complaints about PvP and most fixes are wanted for it. In order to satisfy the large amount of players that want to continue to play this game. The addition of PvP is extremely important otherwise the population will drop over time. I love this game and it could have a pretty rich PvP system so a lot of player are eager for new maps, ratings, gear, a season where titles award and competition against the best is put in place is all.
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Bots will be in every MMO pvp match the thing is they matter less in other games cause they have a strong PvP platform. Exploits are minor like GG spawn camping but nothing else. Having a PvP platform will fix itself of the Bot issue cause personally if my 10 man team has 2 bots and the other team has 1. I still feel we can win a 8v9 which takes bots out of the picture completely. Not to mention there will be NO bots in Arena which is what PvP is really about since you make your own team have a team captain and compete in competitive PVP.
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Then why are you not playing Rift for it's PvP?
Same reason you won't last on this game too right? Right!
Anything is better then NO PvP. Also I do hate WoW. I quit that game a long time ago and will never go back it used to be good. Right now I am searching for where I want to play have fun and PvP. Hopefully they release PvP in NW cause I like this game a lot.
That's a idea I guess I can quit and try Rift have friends there. Just thought after Beta we would have PvP and I like the combat and the game. Hopefully they give us some PvP other wise I might be playing Rift for PvP.
Don't know about way more players for PvE. The competition is in PvP and no MMO can survive without it. If they want to make money then PvP is where it is at. Players aren't blowing cash in the Zen shop for PvE they are doing it to be decked out to kill other players in PvP. So releasing PvP will be better for the game then any new whatever is coming up for PvE that I won't do.
If you're looking for a PVP game, let me suggest Lineage 2. You can even get in on a private server if you don't want to go retail.
- JailBreak (in development)
You can always try AoC or a hundred other games that center around PvP.
Strange I guess my nearly 150$ plus the Guardian package didn't matter then since I never PvP. As far as I know LoTRO is still pretty strong and it is a pretty lame PvM system. In all my years of MMO gaming it was usually the RPG/RP crowd that was blowing the money on games (cosmetic, feel good items, player housing, guild housing, etc). Anything u might want to purchase for PvP also is purchased by PvE players as they want to remain competitive when questing/raiding.
While i will agree that only dominance pvp is a bit boring after a while, i dont think this game needs to be a wow clone to have pvp
I will support the adding of any PvP right now we don't have any. So it would be nice if they roll this out soon for everyone looking to PvP. Currently there are so many complaints about PvP and most fixes are wanted for it. In order to satisfy the large amount of players that want to continue to play this game. The addition of PvP is extremely important otherwise the population will drop over time. I love this game and it could have a pretty rich PvP system so a lot of player are eager for new maps, ratings, gear, a season where titles award and competition against the best is put in place is all.