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Rogue Deflection -> none intuitive

niblnibl Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2013 in The Thieves' Den
First - yes I know that Rogues are OP etc.
Rogue was my 4-th character that I created (earlier i had CW, GWF, GF) and every other character have Deflection severity 50% (INCLUDING CONTROL WIZARD).
So i just wondered how to make a bit different than all these "infinitely stealthed" rogues. So i wanted to make deflection my primary defensive stat (Halfling -> Cha + Dex). I thought that somewhere in rogue skill tree, there will be some deflection severity stuff, I was a bit disappointed that I only have 3% chance feats, and no severity.
My rogue just hit level 20 and I checked my stats, and was very surprised that my severity is only 25%. Double checked if it is not fault of "lot covering" Clock Tower armor, but no... Rogue have less Deflection severity, than rags wearing wizard...
I feel quite pigeon holed -> 25% damage reduction is laughable -> I probably would be able to reach around 50% deflection chance by endgame, with some deflection chance, but why should I...
It is like carrot that is spoiled inside -> look halfling have Deflection bonuss -> halflings are naturally good rogues -> Look rogue have 2 stat that increase deflection -> Ha ha ha you fell for it -> Rog have half of effective deflection chance, as other classes (that mean all deflection stuff from your equipment is worth half as other classes).
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  • knoteskadknoteskad Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I don't understand why Deflection isn't 75% severity like crit.

    It's what makes the stats pretty underwhelming for stacking compared to Defense. I mean sure it's nice when you get lucky and avoid some burst or something, but that's no reason to stack it. I was really interested in doing the same idea but with GWF since they can potentially get a stupid amount of deflection as well. But at only 50% severity....... eehhh....


    I'm pretty sure it's 50% for all classes btw, you must have looked at the wrong thing.
  • snugglemancersnugglemancer Member Posts: 105 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    You're getting confused by the misguiding number on deflection severity. Rogues actually only take 25% of the damage dealt on a successful deflect. So deflection is actually better for rogues than other classes.
  • niblnibl Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    NOPE...
    It clearly states: "How much damage you avoid when you deflect attack" (it is NOT: how much damage you get)
  • snugglemancersnugglemancer Member Posts: 105 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    nibl wrote: »
    NOPE...
    It clearly states: "How much damage you avoid when you deflect attack" (it is NOT: how much damage you get)
    Try testing it out before blindly believing the tooltip. If you look at your logs when you deflect an attack the damage is reduced by 75%.
  • niblnibl Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Ahh... yeah... Yet another great tooltip.
    Tooltips are there to believe them.

    @Criptic (not that someone will read this)
    Still you could get that repaired...
  • e11ze11z Member Posts: 144 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    So let me get this straight.

    Rogues Take 25% of the damage when deflecting?

    I.e:

    1000 damage taken normally

    Deflected damage - only 250 taken?
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  • snugglemancersnugglemancer Member Posts: 105 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    e11z wrote: »
    So let me get this straight.

    Rogues Take 25% of the damage when deflecting?

    I.e:

    1000 damage taken normally

    Deflected damage - only 250 taken?

    That's correct.
  • casia345casia345 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 58
    edited May 2013
    yeah, I agree with snuggle.
    While I first thought deflection was terrible due to that 25% note.
    Making use of Impossible to catch, I am clearly not taking much damage at all when its up.

    Its almost certainly 25% damage taken on deflect.
  • tope1159tope1159 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 34
    edited July 2013
    Does this revalation make stacking Cha and/or deflect worth it?
  • rabbinicusrabbinicus Member Posts: 1,822 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    So this means that my GF takes 75% of the damage deflected or is the tooltip only broken for TR's?
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  • creolegamercreolegamer Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    rabbinicus wrote: »
    So this means that my GF takes 75% of the damage deflected or is the tooltip only broken for TR's?

    they take 50% as it says. Also makes sense to give that tanky class less deflection severity. Trying out deflection myself and what i can add is that most of the stats come from your ability scores, so as one guy earlier mentioned, you should get as much charisma and dexterity as you can. one feat that gives 3% passive and the class feature 'Skillful Infiltrator' (i think) gives 3 deflection along with crit and movement. Unbuffed, i have 40% deflection, i could get more with enchants and with gear would require me to lose out on arm. pen. and power i gain from my companion
  • tope1159tope1159 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 34
    edited July 2013
    How's the Dex-Cha build?
    does it loose out greatly on DPS without str?

    is 40% even felt? XD
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