test content
Logo
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc
How to fix the pvp the easy solution and not destroy PVE
gokkens
Member Posts: 104 Bounty Hunter
Give throwing knifes a 15 second cooldown, you cannot both be the best melee and ranged class in the game
give all classes a buff call it stoic or something it makes you immune to all stun, daze, choke, knockback and other rediculess CC it should work so when you got knockdowned or stunned for the next 30 seconds you could not be cced again! this would fix many broken things in pvp where you can basicly get killed without ever getting a chance to fight back!
Reduce the effect of all dailies about 30-40% all classes have one that can 1 shot a class or get them so low health they in a few seconds that they cannot hope to win. This I would also call a oneshot, because you push one buttom and the won!
again this would not effect PVE at all
Reduce Rightousness debuff to 15% or 25% as it is now 40% is way to steep
Make dodge abilitis so that you can only use them to dodge 2 attacks not like CW can atm
Again the most of these changes would not ruin any particular class!
give all classes a buff call it stoic or something it makes you immune to all stun, daze, choke, knockback and other rediculess CC it should work so when you got knockdowned or stunned for the next 30 seconds you could not be cced again! this would fix many broken things in pvp where you can basicly get killed without ever getting a chance to fight back!
Reduce the effect of all dailies about 30-40% all classes have one that can 1 shot a class or get them so low health they in a few seconds that they cannot hope to win. This I would also call a oneshot, because you push one buttom and the won!
again this would not effect PVE at all
Reduce Rightousness debuff to 15% or 25% as it is now 40% is way to steep
Make dodge abilitis so that you can only use them to dodge 2 attacks not like CW can atm
Again the most of these changes would not ruin any particular class!
Post edited by gokkens on
0
Comments
It currently has a 3 second per charge cooldown, to get the most effectiveness you need to unleash all stacks consecutively and uninterrupted to gain the damage stacking, so from 0 stacks to full your talking 36 second cooldown..
Best melee class? how do you define that? or do you mean the only dps class is the best dps class? because GF and GWF are currently "best" melee classes. TR is great at popping in and inflicting massive damage and either retreating, using immunities to prolong his life or getting gangbanged.
Some sort of CC reduction I could understand, but 30 second CC immunity is quite a lot , would make CW worse.
If you want to reduce damage, then reduce healing to compensate.
A diminishing return on CCs was the fix for LotRO PvMP and it didn't affect PvE content.
No never this!
Healing is already much much much much lower than Damage its been stated over and over again! on so many occasions!!!
Clerics already have minus 40% on all there healings? what do you guys wan't to kill every class ever with one press of a buttom? If so then I can reccomend game such as Counter strike, or Team fortress 2! in general you should play an FPS then!
A rogues damage and Dps is top notch in PvE and PvP as melee. They have way more utility. So they are the best Dps and melee class. Not to mention abilities to fact tank a boss.
Only related to pvp, if you didn't nerf healing, you would never kill a gwf or some gf
this post was about PvP, so I could care less if you cant comprehend the topic and talk about pve.
as stated in OP, everyone can just about 1 shot anyone.
You do know it takes 36 seconds for a TR's CoS to recharge right? And TR's are hardly the best melee in game, GWF's claim that title easily with unstoppable, followed closely by GF's. Tell you what, I am sure TR's will agree to almost any nerf, just give them plate armor instead of being the 2nd squishiest class in game, or remove all plate and chain armors from the game.
People so seriously need to learn about things.
No just no! this is pointless argument your saying in higher levels you have more skills therefor its different is than low levels? well ofc it is!
there is no point in what you are saying!
HAHAHAHAHA MAIL ARMOR?!
Are you stupid?! this gave has an AC system everyone has around 10-12 ac in max level meaning basicly everyone has almost the same damage reduction!
you can increase you defense yes? but everyone can do that with the same amount with enchantments so this is even for all classes! armor does not make a difference in this game! clerics still die on 2 hits!
at this point I am done with this, because you are dumb. You're not getting the point... just another QQ thread by people that cant play. Its not just damage mitigation. its also about hit points too. GF fighter with 44K hp and 50% damage mitigation compared to a rogue with 22K hp and maybe 30% armor mitigation, and lets not forget Armor Pen...
Let me guess you think Stealth is invisibility and should be nerfed too?
Dumb is dumb I guess. SMH
And if a cleric is getting two shotted by one person consistently, they are either horribly under geared or just suck badly.
+1
My GF is in T1 and T2 gear and only has 24k HP. I guess maxing out my gear with ludicrous amounts of AD would help a little, but I can't exactly see myself getting to 44k...
and the arguement rogue die easily so they need so much damage is lame! so does cleric and they have no near the healing or damage?!
every class dies easy in pvp! mainly from Rediculess daily use and overuse of CC if you read the freaking post no one talked about your precious invisibility that is also overpowered as hell! seeing you can throw knifes from it forever!
and to those that said rogues has been nerfed to the ground! thats pathetic they nerfed that shocking strike thingy but buffed everything els!
Try cleric if you life is so hard as a rogue!
I always feel a little bad for clerics in PvP. They can be really tanky if built right, but don't really do enough damage to be anything other than a distraction.
I'm a cleric. Never have i got two shot by a rogue. And if my group is at least a tiny bit competent i won't die more than 1-4 times in the battle. Like, you know a rogue will most likely come after you, put chains, go back, if he gets caught, they nuke him, if he doesn't just move away.
And i can't understand why people who chose healer as their class, want to kill people, and not be a priority target in PvP.
"nerf adds pl0x, always killing the cleric."
Tang> well they heal ya you know. If you put damage and heals on the same class, why would you need another class?
Let me guess you play melee
CW would be useless in PVP.
remove rejuv pots
remove bots
allow duels/challenges 1v1, 3v3, 5v5 etc
more maps
bigger maps
more styles of pvp (last man standing vs. capture the flag vs. just free for all)
better matchmaking re: gear score/pvp wins
remove mounts
stop allowing CC stacking (i.e. wizard holds + gf stun on same char)
that would be a start
That is BC
I love how CW are like if I cannot stun or cc someone for 30 seconds then I am useless? geuss what! every class is useless! no we are asking for a diminishing returns on CC because it is rediculess that I Die before i got the chance to fight back!
you will still have all your rediculess 12k damage!
I like how the previous guy suggested bigger maps and different play styles because ever class excel at different things!
what this threat is about and if you dont understand then please stop posting this threat is about
Dailies that are way way way to powerfull in PVP
the stealth bug and throwing knife
the reduction in healing that is so high
no one is talking about lesser damage!
or nerfing **** to hell!
This is small changes that fix the issues for everyone!
I disagree as to why clerics are attacked first, and I don't think it's because of the heals. I think it's because you can mow one down and get a second player with your alphastrike.
As always, good teamwork changes the dynamic. It's what makes PVP. But you can't put the cleric FIELD (yes, there are some amazing clerics out there but they're few and far between - I'm not one of them) into comparison with any other class and not see that the class itself burrows rapidly to the bottom of the pile in damage and survivability. An average player of every other class will own the average cleric on any given day. Some players have mastered the class and have taken it to amazing heights, but they'd do the same regardless which class they play.
My personal fix is that Sun Burst (Divine Mode) gains castable while CC/breaks CC/ and provides a short CC immunity on top of knockback. I'd also like to see us get three dodges off of stamina instead of two.
+1 My guildies and I have for the past week wanted PVP Team Deathmatch, PVP Team Capture The Flag, and PVP Team King Of The Hill plus more maps. 2 maps isn't enough to vary up the gameplay. At least make 2 more maps so it would be interesting.